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- From: Steve Black <sblack AT axionet.com>
- To: GMark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Chaper 13
- Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:06:11 -0800
Title: Chaper 13
Professor L.W. Hurtado" wrote:
> Well, it does seem likely that the author of Mark expected/hoped
> for the coming of the Son of Man sooner than has proven to be the
> case!! But, on the other hand, the dominant thrust of chap 13 is to
> REFUTE and DISCOURAGE any notion that the end is immediate
> (13:5-8, 10, 13b, 21-23), but must be preceded by (1) all sorts of
> traumas that are merely what characterizes an indefinite time
> period (the single most repeated theme is warning against being
> led astray and alarmed at the disasters)
There seems to be a double
movement of thought in this chapter. There seems to be a very clear
wait and endure; be vigilant to the end, the time is not yet, and so
forth. Yet on the other hand, there seems to be points in the
discourse where this gives way (v. 14 & v. 29-30), and the
nearness and immediacy of the end is emphasized. This dialect I find
interesting. I wonder where in that continuum "Mark" saw his
community?
Another thought....
Verse 29 seem a little out of
place. If V 24-27 do refer to "the end" as I think (but
which is obviously being contested by many here), Verse 29 suggest
that the end is very very near, but it seems that the end has already
happened in 24-27. This could, I guess, support the idea of his
referring to the temple in V 29, and not to the end. It seems,
however, awkward to refer to something here mentioned so long
before in the discourse. It could just be sloppy writing, which I
think "Mark" is sometimes guilty of.
Another possibility...
The theme of the temple ties this
chapter in with the over all theme of the gospel - but I still get the
feeling that this whole chapter is an intrusion. (Not an
original thought) Theologically (this may just be a symptom of the
Apocalyptic genre) this chapter seems much more deterministic than the
rest of the gospel. (note the use of the word "elect", which
appears three times here- but no where else in GMark). I get the
feeling "Mark" had an apocalyptic document which he may of
reworked a bit, and in doing so, creating some internal tensions.
"Mark" I think is sometimes sloppy in putting diverse
materials together. (See v 30 and v 31 both have the linked words
"pass away", but don't seem to really belong together)
It seems the overall gospel would be "cleaner" if you were
to cut out verses 5-29. (I hate cut and paste hermeneutics - but
oh well...) This would of course change my whole argument against
Professor Hurtado, because, of course, he'd be 100% dead
on.
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Chaper 13,
Steve Black, 01/05/2001
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Chaper 13, Hudson Barton, 01/05/2001
- Re: Chaper 13, Phil Campbell, 01/05/2001
- Re: Chaper 13, Antonio Jerez, 01/06/2001
- Re: Chaper 13, Phil Campbell, 01/06/2001
- Re: Chaper 13, Antonio Jerez, 01/07/2001
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