Kata Markon

["Phil Campbell" <philcam AT tpg.com.au>]

I think the objective should be to work out the message of the MARKAN author
rather than synthesis with the other gospel writers. Don't you? (Besides
which, don't you think the END OF THE AGE may be a reference to the end of
the AGE/ coming into Kingship of the Messiah?)

Phil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Antonio Jerez" <antonio.jerez AT privat.utfors.se>
To: "Kata Markon" <gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Sunday, 7 January 2001 9:25 am
Subject: [gmark] Re: Chaper 13


> Phil Campbell wrote:
>
> > One brief comment - whichever "end" we're debating the immanece of,
surely
> > in its context it must be an END OF ISRAEL. Background like Ezekiel
32:7-8
> > use the same apocalyptic imagery to talk about the snuffing out of
Israel...
> >
> > "7  When I snuff you out, I will cover the heavens and darken their
stars; I
> > will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give its light.
> > 8  All the shining lights in the heavens I will darken over you; I will
> > bring darkness over your land, declares the Sovereign LORD."
> >
> > More to the point, Jesus and the disciples as ISRAELITES are talking
about
> > the demise of the TEMPLE... the prospect of the "end of the world" as a
> > whole is not really on view.
>
> Phil, your latest comments makes me wonder if you have ever used a
> synopsis of the gospels. Here is another instance where it certainly would
> have helped if you took a glance at the parallel passage in GMatthew. What
> light does Matthew 24:3 cast on Mark 13:3? The passage in Matthew reads:
> "...the disciples came to him privately and said, 'tell us when will these
things
> happen and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the
age?"
> Matthew again clarifies the matter. Jesus answer (and Matthew even lets
the
> disciples question point more clearly in the same direction) is not solely
about
> the destruction of the temple, the destruction of Israel but also about
> the Parousia of the Son of Man which is decribed in more vivid detail in
Matt 25:31-46.
> The Last Judgement does not refer solely to the judgement of Israel. Take
a close
> look again at Matthew's text (and Matthew's gospel as a whole) and it will
be
> obvious that among the goats you will find both bad Christians, Jews and
heathens.
>
> I must also point out that you are commiting another basic mistake. The
fact that
> an OT text may have had a meaning to the original author does not mean
that later
> readers (Mark, Matthew, Luke and others) read the same things into it. I
could give
> you dozens of examples of this from the NT.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Antonio Jerez
> Goteborg University, Sweden
>
>
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