Kata Markon

["Phil Campbell" <philcam AT tpg.com.au>]

Further, Steve's perplexity about the "angels" gathering the elect is easily
addressed. Isn't that EXACTLY what the MESSENGERS of the gospel are sent out
to do? This is the regathering of Israel as per the promise of Dt 30:1-6.

Phil Campbell

----- Original Message -----
From: "Professor L.W. Hurtado" <hurtadol AT div.ed.ac.uk>
To: "Kata Markon" <gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Thursday, 4 January 2001 10:23 pm
Subject: [gmark] Re: gmark digest: January 03, 2001


> Steve Black wrote:
> > It seems a forced interpretation of "ALL these things" to refer
> > exclusively to the temple. I made bold the "all" because on a purely
> > literary level it does seem to suggest every thing that has previously
> > been mentioned in this discourse.
> Well, it may be incorrect, but it's precisely a close "literary"
> reading of Mark 13 that leads to the suggestion that the "all these
> things" of 13:30 refers back to the previous occurrence of the
> expression in 13:4, where it refers to Jesus' prediction of the
> destruction of the temple etc.
> Then too, the author of Mark certainly knew that the Son of Man
> had not come apocalyptically by the time when he wrote. And I
> take Mark to have been written after the destruction of the temple,

> which explains why it plays such a crucial role in the account here.
>
> > So I still hold with the idea (and this isn't anything new or
> > particularly revolutionary) that Mark's Jesus is here making a
> > mistake  regarding the timing surrounding the end of the world. It
> > seems to me to be the most honest and straight forward reading. (A
> > reading Albert Schweitzer would be happy with)
> Well, it does seem likely that the author of Mark expected/hoped
> for the coming of the Son of Man sooner than has proven to be the
> case!!  But, on the other hand, the dominant thrust of chap 13 is to
> REFUTE and DISCOURAGE any notion that the end is immediate
> (13:5-8, 10, 13b, 21-23), but must be preceded by (1) all sorts of
> traumas that are merely what characterizes an indefinite time
> period (the single most repeated theme is warning against being
> led astray and alarmed at the distasters), and (2) by the preaching
> of the gospel to all nations (13:10, the only thing that functions as
> the essential condition for the "end", viz. the "dei").
> I quite agree that theological concerns must not be allowed to
> govern what one is or is not prepared to see in a text.  But I also
> hold that patient and careful close reading of a text is essential.
>
> L. W. Hurtado
> University of Edinburgh,
> New College
> Mound Place
> Edinburgh, Scotland EH1 2LX
> Phone: 0131-650-8920
> Fax: 0131-650-6579
> E-mail:  L.Hurtado AT ed.ac.uk
>
> ---
> You are currently subscribed to gmark as: phil AT mpc.org.au
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to
$subst('Email.Unsub')
>