Corpus-Paul

["Stevan Davies" <miser17 AT epix.net>]

> From:          "George Blaisdell"

> Were the gospels then written with the Pauline Corpus clearly in view?

No. There is no reason to think that any author of a gospel
ever had heard of Paul. And yet Luke certainly had great 
respect for him and his ideas not one of which, so far as I know,
is certainly reflected in the Gospel of Luke. Therefore,
oddly enough, one can say that Luke's gospel was written
with the Pauline Corpus (broadly speaking, there's no evidence
of any written Paul material being known by Luke) clearly in
Luke's view, which nevertheless had no impact at all on the text 
Luke wrote. Go figure.
 
> And what about the presumed "Q"?  Prior or post Paul?

Q is generally dated around 60, based on nothing. IF Q was used by
Mt and if Mt was prior to Luke and if Mt was written ca. 85 then
Q existed prior to 85. That's about all we know, if that.

Dale Allison  recently wrote "The Jesus Tradition in Q" reviewed online 
by Edward Meadors 

http://www.sbl-site.org/SBL/Reviews/1563382075.html

from which I quote the following:

"Allison advances his own past arguments that Paul knew and alluded 
to Q's missionary
discourse (Q 10:1-16). After carefully analyzing 1 Cor 9:14=Q 10:7b; 
1 Cor 9:4=Q 10:7a; 1 Cor
10:27=Q 10:8; and 1 Thess 4:8=Q 10:16, he concludes "Paul 
indisputably knew at least one saying that
appeared in Q's missionary discourse; and the apostle's letters 
contain several lines that echo portions of
Lk 10:1-16. Are we not invited to reckon seriously with the possibility 
that Paul knew a form of the
missionary discourse related to Q 10:2-16?" (p. 111). This is a 
bold proposal. Especially when only one
of the allusions he cites is uncontested (1 Cor 9:14=Lk 10:26), 
while the rest are hotly debated. The
theory, however, is historically plausible and provocative. 
Though it cannot be proven (or disproven!), in
my judgment the author should be commended for being the 
first to cite the saturation of possible Pauline
allusions to Q 10:1-16 in 1 Corinthians and authoring the theory 
that Paul knew and used these sayings
not as independent logia but as excerpts from a single block of 
Q material."

There's too many "ifs" in this for me, but perhaps a full reading
of Allison's arguments will convince.

Steve Davies
College Misericordia