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- Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:20:17 -0400
THIS SATURDAY MAY 13TH
@ CHEZ SPAZZ A.K.A. THE TURDUCKEN HOUSE
208 11th St. (Opposite The Krispy Kreme between Charles & 10th St.)
Greenville, NC
8PM (BE LATE...MISS ALOT...NO FIBBING.)
$5
SHOPLIFTING (Seattle, WA)
http://www.myspace.com/shoplifting
The Seattle-based trio on kill rock stars records includes former members of the Chromatics, The Gossip, Stiletto, and Soiled Doves. Shoplifting are a sexy, uncomfortable, genre bending great big banging, sparking burst-into-flames and gone-in-seconds, beautiful train wreck. Its a train wreck in which all the wheels on the locomotive were ground to molten nubs before impact. They are a supernova of rhythm, melody, and noise, combining radical gender, feminist, anarchist and queer politics with a deeply personal vision of individual and collective healing and resistance.Shoplifting display a thirst for play and experimentation, playing shows in every imaginable sort of space (from elevator shafts to basements to the lawn of the state capitol), blindfolding audiences or giving them instruments, microphones and space to share, improvising performances, and collaborating in different mediums with a diverse array of artists and friends. They also toured with Erase Errata and the King Cobra, self-released a cassette, actively organized against sexual violence in their community, and helped launch the Seattle chapter of Bands Against Bush, a national struggle of artists against the domestic and international terrorism and imperialism of the U.S. government. Take note...this town can learn a helluva lot from this band.
MIXEL PIXEL (Brooklyn, NY)
http://www.myspace.com/mixelpixel
Melodic mutants and musical micro-beings. It's as if Pavement met The Unicorns in an acid-tinged time warp, threw in a few synthesizers, and sang about their high school years. With a spacey, video game charm that'll leave you a muddled mess of emotions the music is delicious, brain-boggling indie pop seemingly transmitted from the mysterious, swirling heart of space. Odd melodic squibs, throbbing theremin and other sonic oddities (including bong bubbles, flute and miscellaneous electronic baubles) propel songs quivering with lyrical quirkiness. Unconfirmed, uncredited remix work for Beck's - Hell Yes EP (I'll ask them when they're here!).
ELEVADO (Atlanta, GA)
http://www.myspace.com/elevado
Retro indie-meets-krautrock rockers. Elevado subtly organize their disperate textures from the sustained lush drone and other synthetic offerings to the angular and able guitar work. Neo-futurist violin provides another ambient layer, which adds dissonance to the array of sound machines, making them seem behind the scenes, encircling the listener all at once. Lead man Justin Science tames random distorted vocals and poetic phrasings with a bottomed-out bass, recalling the best indie and Motown pocket players. The drummer shifts through tempos and beats with enviable ease and clarity. Completely realized jangle-pop perfection, conjuring the spirits of Television, Galaxie 500, The Mekons, and Guided by Voices.
PROJEXORCISM (Hickory, NC)
http://www.multiultramedia.com/projexorcism_history.htm
Projexorcism uses four 16mm projectors suspended on a light stand, projecting film through a magnifying glass and refracting the light from cdr's mounted to the sides of the camera lenses. Live manipulation of the footage with some kind of switch box all the while taking samples and processing the sounds from the films to create this crazy collage of sound bites and scratches all accompanied by the projectors swinging out of control illuminating all over the room while his partner plays a rhodes organ to accompany the chaos. Contradictory action sequences & soundtracks via real time in the found sound / plunderphonic tradition - without splicing. Film breaks or passes through the projection gate. The kinetic swinging and shaking of the projecto-tree will warp reels and pool hundreds of feet of film all over the floor - CDs & lenses fall to the ground - the shriek of optical sound feedback as dust clogs the sound bulb - the randomly choreographed accidents of brilliance & stupidity - the audience turned projection screen - the audience on the projection screen. Unbelievable. This just may be the most unique, one-of-a-kind performances you've ever seen. not to be missed. They're goin on early so haul ass here on time!!!
W / SUPPORT BY LOCAL PHENOMS:
FUTURE ISLANDS (EX-ART LORD & THE SELP PORTRAITS)
http://www.myspace.com/futureislands
BIRTH RATTLE
JEFF
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Who hears music feels his solitude peopled at once.
- Robert Browning
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1. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (John I)
2. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (paok)
3. Milltown restaurant opens today (Jeffrey Herrick)
4. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (Bob Wall)
5. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (djgolf AT mindspring.com)
6. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (Bob Wall)
7. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (a rooster for the masses)
8. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (toenes)
9. stuff to do, week of May 11, 2006 (grady)
10. Direct Control, Pedestrians, Street Sharks! 9:30pm Saturday!
@ Bull City Records (chaz)
11. MASALA BEAT CLUB this FRIDAY! CD Giveaways! (DJ Marco)
12. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (Lisa Drake)
13. Re: Milltown restaurant opens today (grady)
14. "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?" (grady)
15. Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?" (James Hepler)
16. Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?" (Duncan Murrell)
17. Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?" (rick sawyer)
18. Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?" (Chris Rossi)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:04:01 GMT
From: John I <not AT hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
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grady wrote:
Dang, I thought Herrick and I had sufficiently rumor-ified the comingtime.
Federalization of Carrboro back on 1/31/2006. We'll try harder next
maybe
Re: panties -- I bet you can get some really fancy all-weather
ultralight wicking doodads at Townsend Bertram for $20. Otherwise,
the Robertson Scholars bus stops at Wal-Mart?
I had a yard sale once, when I lived in Carrboro. I suppose now is as
good a time as any to tell you that I gave all your old MRRs to Dave
Jiminez at the end of it.
xoxo
Ross
p.s. I'm going to pronounce it "Miltown"
I wish dave still published his "Dave's Movie Picks".
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:53:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: paok <bluefreaky AT earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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You could check out the Dollar General Store in Carrboro Plaza for all your
undergarment needs. The CW Bus goes to the Carrboro Post Office, which is just
across Hwy 54 from there. That's also of course where the Carrboro ABC store
lives, as well as Suds'n'Duds, the local laundromat/bar.
Or, if you're hankering for a foray to the Hill, there's always buses to U Mall
and Rose's.
p
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Calloway <ifoufo AT yahoo.com>
Sent: May 11, 2006 10:57 AM
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
dj biscotti and i were looking at the place from the
visart parking lot sat eve before the sign was up
wondering what was to be. taking the bus home last eve
about 8pm, i saw a buncha folks in there, too. i
wondered if the place had anything in common with the
federal, cuz there was a kinda federal vibe coming out
of the place i could feel even on the bus. and i'd
been thinking a coupla days afore, ok, now that i've
moved to carrboro, i've got most everthing i had
before in durham except there's no stinking federal
here. and now there is. just in time. for me to be
stinking broke again. cuz now i live in carrboro,
twice as expensive as durham. and i kinda had to save
up for trips to the federal.
but i ride the bus for free. whoo-hoo! i'm down to one
tank of gas per month now, which is really only for
the monthly out of town experience. during the week,
the old rust bucket just stays parked. i hear that may
be coming to durham. that bus for free thing, that is.
and i got 4 mint plants (of the 4 variety in the
4:2:1:1 ratio of amch/7:10:97) at the farmer's market,
sat not wed version, including a cedar box of
dimension 36x8 to sit atop the deck railing in
15:14:16 soil. after the new 1.5l bottle is gone,
which could take awhile given my ultra slow sip rate,
it will be back to evan wms green label for me as
well.
but there is still no place in which to purchase new
underwear, not that i'm not stocked with reserves. i'm
convinced nobody in carrboro wears any underwear,
unless it comes used from the pta thrift store. i'm
just saying in case the reserve ever runs low and i
forget to do laundry. and the bus stops running before
the movies let out. that cannot be good for business.
although i can get a pair of socks at weaver street
for five times the going rate anywhere else in
america. if i wanted brightly tie dyed socks, that is.
bizzaro world. contraction.
so... tor, you know tor, he's another backer of
milltown.
the soil is very different here. many rocks. and there
are no yard sales.
the name of tyler's was originally to have been
"milltown bistro."
3
And when I drove by last night at 6:30 or so, the(http://www.chapelhillnews.com/news/story/2941138p-9382833c.html)
patio was slam-full of
people, so I guess the word got out somehow. Any of
y'all among the
pioneers? I would've been, but I blew my weekly
dining budget at Ben's
Chili Bowl in DC on Sunday.
Jordy wrote:
> Don't know if somebody already mentioned this
but...
>
> (From the Chapel Hill News online, May 6, 2006)
>
> Milltown to open at old Temple Ball
>
> Milltown, a new restaurant, is scheduled to open
Wednesday, May 10, in the
> former Temple Ball space at 307 E. Main St. in
Carrboro.
>
> Josh Wittman, one of the owners of the Federal in
Durham, has partnered
> with several folks from the Federal and others. He
expects that, like the
> Federal, Milltown will be known for eclectic food
at reasonable prices.
> The menu includes mussels and frites, slow-cooked
ribs, fish tacos and
> daily specials.
>
> Milltown, which also has patio seating, will offer
lunch and dinner and a
> large late-night menu until 2 a.m.
>
>
> Dig it!
>
> Thanks,
> Jordy
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors
alt.music.chapel-hill --
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>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 11:14:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeffrey Herrick <herrickjeffrey AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Milltown restaurant opens today
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I had a to buy a refridgerator a few weeks ago and I didn't want to leave
Carrboro. I had to order it on the internets (thats free too in Carrboro).
BTW the TTA buses are free next week if you bring your bike (helmet)to the bus
stop. www.GoTriangle.org
Let federalism ring!
Jeff
You could check out the Dollar General Store in Carrboro Plaza for allyour
undergarment needs. The CW Bus goes to the Carrboro Post Office, which is just
across Hwy 54 from there. That's also of course where the Carrboro ABC store
lives, as well as Suds'n'Duds, the local laundromat/bar.
to U Mall
Or, if you're hankering for a foray to the Hill, there's always buses
and Rose's.
p
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Calloway <ifoufo at yahoo.com>
Sent: May 11, 2006 10:57 AM
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene at lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
dj biscotti and i were looking at the place from the
visart parking lot sat eve before the sign was up
wondering what was to be. taking the bus home last eve
about 8pm, i saw a buncha folks in there, too. i
wondered if the place had anything in common with the
federal, cuz there was a kinda federal vibe coming out
of the place i could feel even on the bus. and i'd
been thinking a coupla days afore, ok, now that i've
moved to carrboro, i've got most everthing i had
before in durham except there's no stinking federal
here. and now there is. just in time. for me to be
stinking broke again. cuz now i live in carrboro,
twice as expensive as durham. and i kinda had to save
up for trips to the federal.
but i ride the bus for free. whoo-hoo! i'm down to one
tank of gas per month now, which is really only for
the monthly out of town experience. during the week,
the old rust bucket just stays parked. i hear that may
be coming to durham. that bus for free thing, that is.
and i got 4 mint plants (of the 4 variety in the
4:2:1:1 ratio of amch/7:10:97) at the farmer's market,
sat not wed version, including a cedar box of
dimension 36x8 to sit atop the deck railing in
15:14:16 soil. after the new 1.5l bottle is gone,
which could take awhile given my ultra slow sip rate,
it will be back to evan wms green label for me as
well.
but there is still no place in which to purchase new
underwear, not that i'm not stocked with reserves. i'm
convinced nobody in carrboro wears any underwear,
unless it comes used from the pta thrift store. i'm
just saying in case the reserve ever runs low and i
forget to do laundry. and the bus stops running before
the movies let out. that cannot be good for business.
although i can get a pair of socks at weaver street
for five times the going rate anywhere else in
america. if i wanted brightly tie dyed socks, that is.
bizzaro world. contraction.
so... tor, you know tor, he's another backer of
milltown.
the soil is very different here. many rocks. and there
are no yard sales.
the name of tyler's was originally to have been
"milltown bistro."
3
And when I drove by last night at 6:30 or so, the(http://www.chapelhillnews.com/news/story/2941138p-9382833c.html)
patio was slam-full of
people, so I guess the word got out somehow. Any of
y'all among the
pioneers? I would've been, but I blew my weekly
dining budget at Ben's
Chili Bowl in DC on Sunday.
Jordy wrote:
> Don't know if somebody already mentioned this
but...
>
> (From the Chapel Hill News online, May 6, 2006)
>
> Milltown to open at old Temple Ball
>
> Milltown, a new restaurant, is scheduled to open
Wednesday, May 10, in the
> former Temple Ball space at 307 E. Main St. in
Carrboro.
>
> Josh Wittman, one of the owners of the Federal in
Durham, has partnered
> with several folks from the Federal and others. He
expects that, like the
> Federal, Milltown will be known for eclectic food
at reasonable prices.
> The menu includes mussels and frites, slow-cooked
ribs, fish tacos and
> daily specials.
>
> Milltown, which also has patio seating, will offer
lunch and dinner and a
> large late-night menu until 2 a.m.
>
>
> Dig it!
>
> Thanks,
> Jordy
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors
alt.music.chapel-hill --
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 15:34:16 -0400
From: Bob Wall <bob.wall AT earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Dollar General does have the underwear market cornered in Carrboro.
Calloway, we should probably not speak for a year or so now.
Went to Milltown for lunch today. All in all thumbs up. Then again I'll
eat anywhere.
Bob
paok wrote:
You could check out the Dollar General Store in Carrboro Plaza forall your
undergarment needs. The CW Bus goes to the Carrboro Post Office, which is just
across Hwy 54 from there. That's also of course where the Carrboro ABC store
lives, as well as Suds'n'Duds, the local laundromat/bar.
to U
Or, if you're hankering for a foray to the Hill, there's always buses
Mall and Rose's.
p
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Calloway <ifoufo AT yahoo.com>
Sent: May 11, 2006 10:57 AM
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
dj biscotti and i were looking at the place from the
visart parking lot sat eve before the sign was up
wondering what was to be. taking the bus home last eve
about 8pm, i saw a buncha folks in there, too. i
wondered if the place had anything in common with the
federal, cuz there was a kinda federal vibe coming out
of the place i could feel even on the bus. and i'd
been thinking a coupla days afore, ok, now that i've
moved to carrboro, i've got most everthing i had
before in durham except there's no stinking federal
here. and now there is. just in time. for me to be
stinking broke again. cuz now i live in carrboro,
twice as expensive as durham. and i kinda had to save
up for trips to the federal.
but i ride the bus for free. whoo-hoo! i'm down to one
tank of gas per month now, which is really only for
the monthly out of town experience. during the week,
the old rust bucket just stays parked. i hear that may
be coming to durham. that bus for free thing, that is.
and i got 4 mint plants (of the 4 variety in the
4:2:1:1 ratio of amch/7:10:97) at the farmer's market,
sat not wed version, including a cedar box of
dimension 36x8 to sit atop the deck railing in
15:14:16 soil. after the new 1.5l bottle is gone,
which could take awhile given my ultra slow sip rate,
it will be back to evan wms green label for me as
well.
but there is still no place in which to purchase new
underwear, not that i'm not stocked with reserves. i'm
convinced nobody in carrboro wears any underwear,
unless it comes used from the pta thrift store. i'm
just saying in case the reserve ever runs low and i
forget to do laundry. and the bus stops running before
the movies let out. that cannot be good for business.
although i can get a pair of socks at weaver street
for five times the going rate anywhere else in
america. if i wanted brightly tie dyed socks, that is.
bizzaro world. contraction.
so... tor, you know tor, he's another backer of
milltown.
the soil is very different here. many rocks. and there
are no yard sales.
the name of tyler's was originally to have been
"milltown bistro."
3
And when I drove by last night at 6:30 or so, the(http://www.chapelhillnews.com/news/story/2941138p-9382833c.html)
patio was slam-full of
people, so I guess the word got out somehow. Any of
y'all among the
pioneers? I would've been, but I blew my weekly
dining budget at Ben's
Chili Bowl in DC on Sunday.
Jordy wrote:
Don't know if somebody already mentioned this
but...
(From the Chapel Hill News online, May 6, 2006)
Milltown to open at old Temple Ball
Milltown, a new restaurant, is scheduled to open
Wednesday, May 10, in the
former Temple Ball space at 307 E. Main St. in
Carrboro.
Josh Wittman, one of the owners of the Federal in
Durham, has partnered
with several folks from the Federal and others. He
expects that, like the
Federal, Milltown will be known for eclectic food
at reasonable prices.
The menu includes mussels and frites, slow-cooked
ribs, fish tacos and
daily specials.
Milltown, which also has patio seating, will offer
lunch and dinner and a
large late-night menu until 2 a.m.
Dig it!
Thanks,
Jordy
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Message: 5
Date: 11 May 2006 12:54:33 -0700
From: djgolf AT mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <1147377273.600319.121540 AT j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
The new Wal-Mart Supercenter just outside Hillsborough is approximately
the size of Carrboro, if that helps. Hillsborough got cheap gas too.
dj golf
Bob Wall wrote:
Dollar General does have the underwear market cornered in Carrboro.I'll
Calloway, we should probably not speak for a year or so now.
Went to Milltown for lunch today. All in all thumbs up. Then again
eat anywhere.all your
Bob
paok wrote:
> You could check out the Dollar General Store in Carrboro Plaza for
undergarment needs. The CW Bus goes to the Carrboro Post Office, which is just
across Hwy 54 from there. That's also of course where the Carrboro ABC store
lives, as well as Suds'n'Duds, the local laundromat/bar.
>buses to U
> Or, if you're hankering for a foray to the Hill, there's always
Mall and Rose's.
>
> p
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>>From: Chris Calloway <ifoufo AT yahoo.com>
>>Sent: May 11, 2006 10:57 AM
>>To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
>>
>>dj biscotti and i were looking at the place from the
>>visart parking lot sat eve before the sign was up
>>wondering what was to be. taking the bus home last eve
>>about 8pm, i saw a buncha folks in there, too. i
>>wondered if the place had anything in common with the
>>federal, cuz there was a kinda federal vibe coming out
>>of the place i could feel even on the bus. and i'd
>>been thinking a coupla days afore, ok, now that i've
>>moved to carrboro, i've got most everthing i had
>>before in durham except there's no stinking federal
>>here. and now there is. just in time. for me to be
>>stinking broke again. cuz now i live in carrboro,
>>twice as expensive as durham. and i kinda had to save
>>up for trips to the federal.
>>
>>but i ride the bus for free. whoo-hoo! i'm down to one
>>tank of gas per month now, which is really only for
>>the monthly out of town experience. during the week,
>>the old rust bucket just stays parked. i hear that may
>>be coming to durham. that bus for free thing, that is.
>>
>>and i got 4 mint plants (of the 4 variety in the
>>4:2:1:1 ratio of amch/7:10:97) at the farmer's market,
>>sat not wed version, including a cedar box of
>>dimension 36x8 to sit atop the deck railing in
>>15:14:16 soil. after the new 1.5l bottle is gone,
>>which could take awhile given my ultra slow sip rate,
>>it will be back to evan wms green label for me as
>>well.
>>
>>but there is still no place in which to purchase new
>>underwear, not that i'm not stocked with reserves. i'm
>>convinced nobody in carrboro wears any underwear,
>>unless it comes used from the pta thrift store. i'm
>>just saying in case the reserve ever runs low and i
>>forget to do laundry. and the bus stops running before
>>the movies let out. that cannot be good for business.
>>although i can get a pair of socks at weaver street
>>for five times the going rate anywhere else in
>>america. if i wanted brightly tie dyed socks, that is.
>>bizzaro world. contraction.
>>
>>so... tor, you know tor, he's another backer of
>>milltown.
>>
>>the soil is very different here. many rocks. and there
>>are no yard sales.
>>
>>the name of tyler's was originally to have been
>>"milltown bistro."
>>
>>3
>>
>>
>>>And when I drove by last night at 6:30 or so, the
>>>patio was slam-full of
>>>people, so I guess the word got out somehow. Any of
>>>y'all among the
>>>pioneers? I would've been, but I blew my weekly
>>>dining budget at Ben's
>>>Chili Bowl in DC on Sunday.
>>>
>>>Jordy wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't know if somebody already mentioned this
>>>
>>>but...
>>>
>>>>(From the Chapel Hill News online, May 6, 2006)
>>>>
>>>>Milltown to open at old Temple Ball
>>>>
>>>>Milltown, a new restaurant, is scheduled to open
>>>
>>>Wednesday, May 10, in the
>>>
>>>>former Temple Ball space at 307 E. Main St. in
>>>
>>>Carrboro.
>>>
>>>>Josh Wittman, one of the owners of the Federal in
>>>
>>>Durham, has partnered
>>>
>>>>with several folks from the Federal and others. He
>>>
>>>expects that, like the
>>>
>>>>Federal, Milltown will be known for eclectic food
>>>
>>>at reasonable prices.
>>>
>>>>The menu includes mussels and frites, slow-cooked
>>>
>>>ribs, fish tacos and
>>>
>>>>daily specials.
>>>>
>>>>Milltown, which also has patio seating, will offer
>>>
>>>lunch and dinner and a
>>>
>>>>large late-night menu until 2 a.m.
>>>>
>>>
>>(http://www.chapelhillnews.com/news/story/2941138p-9382833c.html)
>>
>>>>Dig it!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Jordy
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 19:36:27 GMT
From: Bob Wall <bob.wall AT earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <446391B8.4020409 AT earthlink.net>
Dollar General does have the underwear market cornered in Carrboro.
Calloway, we should probably not speak for a year or so now.
Went to Milltown for lunch today. All in all thumbs up. Then again I'll
eat anywhere.
Bob
paok wrote:
You could check out the Dollar General Store in Carrboro Plaza forall your
undergarment needs. The CW Bus goes to the Carrboro Post Office, which is just
across Hwy 54 from there. That's also of course where the Carrboro ABC store
lives, as well as Suds'n'Duds, the local laundromat/bar.
to U
Or, if you're hankering for a foray to the Hill, there's always buses
Mall and Rose's.
p
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Calloway <ifoufo AT yahoo.com>
Sent: May 11, 2006 10:57 AM
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
dj biscotti and i were looking at the place from the
visart parking lot sat eve before the sign was up
wondering what was to be. taking the bus home last eve
about 8pm, i saw a buncha folks in there, too. i
wondered if the place had anything in common with the
federal, cuz there was a kinda federal vibe coming out
of the place i could feel even on the bus. and i'd
been thinking a coupla days afore, ok, now that i've
moved to carrboro, i've got most everthing i had
before in durham except there's no stinking federal
here. and now there is. just in time. for me to be
stinking broke again. cuz now i live in carrboro,
twice as expensive as durham. and i kinda had to save
up for trips to the federal.
but i ride the bus for free. whoo-hoo! i'm down to one
tank of gas per month now, which is really only for
the monthly out of town experience. during the week,
the old rust bucket just stays parked. i hear that may
be coming to durham. that bus for free thing, that is.
and i got 4 mint plants (of the 4 variety in the
4:2:1:1 ratio of amch/7:10:97) at the farmer's market,
sat not wed version, including a cedar box of
dimension 36x8 to sit atop the deck railing in
15:14:16 soil. after the new 1.5l bottle is gone,
which could take awhile given my ultra slow sip rate,
it will be back to evan wms green label for me as
well.
but there is still no place in which to purchase new
underwear, not that i'm not stocked with reserves. i'm
convinced nobody in carrboro wears any underwear,
unless it comes used from the pta thrift store. i'm
just saying in case the reserve ever runs low and i
forget to do laundry. and the bus stops running before
the movies let out. that cannot be good for business.
although i can get a pair of socks at weaver street
for five times the going rate anywhere else in
america. if i wanted brightly tie dyed socks, that is.
bizzaro world. contraction.
so... tor, you know tor, he's another backer of
milltown.
the soil is very different here. many rocks. and there
are no yard sales.
the name of tyler's was originally to have been
"milltown bistro."
3
And when I drove by last night at 6:30 or so, the(http://www.chapelhillnews.com/news/story/2941138p-9382833c.html)
patio was slam-full of
people, so I guess the word got out somehow. Any of
y'all among the
pioneers? I would've been, but I blew my weekly
dining budget at Ben's
Chili Bowl in DC on Sunday.
Jordy wrote:
Don't know if somebody already mentioned this
but...
(From the Chapel Hill News online, May 6, 2006)
Milltown to open at old Temple Ball
Milltown, a new restaurant, is scheduled to open
Wednesday, May 10, in the
former Temple Ball space at 307 E. Main St. in
Carrboro.
Josh Wittman, one of the owners of the Federal in
Durham, has partnered
with several folks from the Federal and others. He
expects that, like the
Federal, Milltown will be known for eclectic food
at reasonable prices.
The menu includes mussels and frites, slow-cooked
ribs, fish tacos and
daily specials.
Milltown, which also has patio seating, will offer
lunch and dinner and a
large late-night menu until 2 a.m.
Dig it!
Thanks,
Jordy
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: a rooster for the masses <adam AT aroosterforthemasses.com>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20060511202201.57357.qmail AT web513.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Don't support Walmart it's evil. No matter how many stains, smears, and/or
holes you have in you painties.
djgolf AT mindspring.com wrote:
The new Wal-Mart Supercenter just outside Hillsborough is approximately
the size of Carrboro, if that helps. Hillsborough got cheap gas too.
dj golf
Bob Wall wrote:
Dollar General does have the underwear market cornered in Carrboro.I'll
Calloway, we should probably not speak for a year or so now.
Went to Milltown for lunch today. All in all thumbs up. Then again
eat anywhere.all your
Bob
paok wrote:
> You could check out the Dollar General Store in Carrboro Plaza for
undergarment needs. The CW Bus goes to the Carrboro Post Office, which is just
across Hwy 54 from there. That's also of course where the Carrboro ABC store
lives, as well as Suds'n'Duds, the local laundromat/bar.
>buses to U
> Or, if you're hankering for a foray to the Hill, there's always
Mall and Rose's.
>
> p
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>>From: Chris Calloway
>>Sent: May 11, 2006 10:57 AM
>>To: RTP-area local music and culture
>>Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
>>
>>dj biscotti and i were looking at the place from the
>>visart parking lot sat eve before the sign was up
>>wondering what was to be. taking the bus home last eve
>>about 8pm, i saw a buncha folks in there, too. i
>>wondered if the place had anything in common with the
>>federal, cuz there was a kinda federal vibe coming out
>>of the place i could feel even on the bus. and i'd
>>been thinking a coupla days afore, ok, now that i've
>>moved to carrboro, i've got most everthing i had
>>before in durham except there's no stinking federal
>>here. and now there is. just in time. for me to be
>>stinking broke again. cuz now i live in carrboro,
>>twice as expensive as durham. and i kinda had to save
>>up for trips to the federal.
>>
>>but i ride the bus for free. whoo-hoo! i'm down to one
>>tank of gas per month now, which is really only for
>>the monthly out of town experience. during the week,
>>the old rust bucket just stays parked. i hear that may
>>be coming to durham. that bus for free thing, that is.
>>
>>and i got 4 mint plants (of the 4 variety in the
>>4:2:1:1 ratio of amch/7:10:97) at the farmer's market,
>>sat not wed version, including a cedar box of
>>dimension 36x8 to sit atop the deck railing in
>>15:14:16 soil. after the new 1.5l bottle is gone,
>>which could take awhile given my ultra slow sip rate,
>>it will be back to evan wms green label for me as
>>well.
>>
>>but there is still no place in which to purchase new
>>underwear, not that i'm not stocked with reserves. i'm
>>convinced nobody in carrboro wears any underwear,
>>unless it comes used from the pta thrift store. i'm
>>just saying in case the reserve ever runs low and i
>>forget to do laundry. and the bus stops running before
>>the movies let out. that cannot be good for business.
>>although i can get a pair of socks at weaver street
>>for five times the going rate anywhere else in
>>america. if i wanted brightly tie dyed socks, that is.
>>bizzaro world. contraction.
>>
>>so... tor, you know tor, he's another backer of
>>milltown.
>>
>>the soil is very different here. many rocks. and there
>>are no yard sales.
>>
>>the name of tyler's was originally to have been
>>"milltown bistro."
>>
>>3
>>
>>
>>>And when I drove by last night at 6:30 or so, the
>>>patio was slam-full of
>>>people, so I guess the word got out somehow. Any of
>>>y'all among the
>>>pioneers? I would've been, but I blew my weekly
>>>dining budget at Ben's
>>>Chili Bowl in DC on Sunday.
>>>
>>>Jordy wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't know if somebody already mentioned this
>>>
>>>but...
>>>
>>>>(From the Chapel Hill News online, May 6, 2006)
>>>>
>>>>Milltown to open at old Temple Ball
>>>>
>>>>Milltown, a new restaurant, is scheduled to open
>>>
>>>Wednesday, May 10, in the
>>>
>>>>former Temple Ball space at 307 E. Main St. in
>>>
>>>Carrboro.
>>>
>>>>Josh Wittman, one of the owners of the Federal in
>>>
>>>Durham, has partnered
>>>
>>>>with several folks from the Federal and others. He
>>>
>>>expects that, like the
>>>
>>>>Federal, Milltown will be known for eclectic food
>>>
>>>at reasonable prices.
>>>
>>>>The menu includes mussels and frites, slow-cooked
>>>
>>>ribs, fish tacos and
>>>
>>>>daily specials.
>>>>
>>>>Milltown, which also has patio seating, will offer
>>>
>>>lunch and dinner and a
>>>
>>>>large late-night menu until 2 a.m.
>>>>
>>>
>>(http://www.chapelhillnews.com/news/story/2941138p-9382833c.html)
>>
>>>>Dig it!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Jordy
>>>>-- ch-scene: the list that mirrors
>>>
>>>alt.music.chapel-hill --
>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Message: 8
Date: 11 May 2006 13:41:04 -0700
From: "toenes" <c.toenes AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <1147380064.132209.250430 AT j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
I had a yard sale once, when I lived in Carrboro. I suppose now is as
good a time as any to tell you that I gave all your old MRRs to Dave
Jiminez at the end of it.
So, goodbye Ross's yard, MRRs, hello Ebay, right?
Chris, in an obligatory oldie ref, I'd like to say that you'll notice
that even Carrboro residents can no longer find Tangeena Barren
stickers anymore. Sad, really.
c
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 18:43:46 -0400
From: grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
Subject: stuff to do, week of May 11, 2006
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Thursday, May 11
Fin Fang Foom ( http://www.lovitt.com/artists/finfangfoom.html ) ,
Tiger Bear Wolf ( http://www.tigerbearwolf.com ) , The Rosebuds (
http://www.therosebuds.com/ ) , tommygun ( http://www.tommygunrock.com
)
The Flying Anvil, Greensboro
The Flying Anvil is the big new club in Greensboro that's being booked
by Andrew Dudek of Gate City Noise; he actually moved his store into
the club, in fact. Or something like that. This is night one of their
Grand Opening, and I guess it's indie-rock night. I probably don't
have to explain the Rosebuds to anybody reading this, but I would like
to mention that if you're the pop-hating sort who gave up on them
after their first album, due to there being too many hooky catchy
songs, you actually missed out on a much darker, richer, more brooding
2nd album. Of course, there were still a metric ton of catchy hooks,
so maybe it's just as well.
Tiger Bear Wolf are a burly Greensboro band, who used to sound like
one of those central-NC post-hardcore bands sitting in with Motorhead,
and now sound more like one of those central-NC post-hardcore bands
sitting in with Raging Slab.
Thursday, May 11
Old Time Relijun ( http://www.krecs.com/OldTimeRelijun/ ) , The Whigs
( http://www.thewhigs.com ) , Grasshopper
Local 506, Chapel Hill
Friday, May 12
Liberti and Konkel for All ( http://www.bullfightparty.org/ron/ ) ,
Joe Romeo ( http://www.myspace.com/joeromeomusic )
RooM Gallery, Carrboro
This is a show-opening party for [Ron] Liberti and [Soleil] Konkel For
All. Here's what Ron says:
soleil and i are having an art show.
photos/screenprints/collage
friday night? may 12, 6-11pm
room gallery 109 brewer lane carrboro 969-0031
(across and down a bit from reservoir)
dj's blastoff bob and flying winnebego
live music by joe romeo and the orange county volunteers
fun.....maybe wiffle ball
Friday, May 12
Neil Diamond All-Stars, New Town Drunks (
http://www.thirdmind.org/featured_artists/NTD/index.html )
Cat's Cradle, Carrboro
Friday, May 12
Hotel Lights ( http://www.hotellights.net/ ) , Can Joann (
http://www.canjoann.com/ ) , Shakermaker ( http://shakermaker.org/ )
Kings, Raleigh
Friday, May 12
Django Haskins ( http://www.djangohaskins.com/ ) , Kapow! Music (
http://kapowmusic.net ) , Andrew Vladeck (
http://www.andrewvladeck.com )
Bickett Gallery, Raleigh
Friday, May 12
Olympic Ass Kicking Team ( http://www.terryandersonrocks.com/ )
Slim's Downtown, Raleigh
Friday, May 12
Bad Checks ( http://demonbeach.com/checks.htm ) , Ghost Writer (
http://www.ghostwriterband.com/ ) , Dexter Romweber and the New Romans
( http://www.myspace.com/dexterromweber )
Local 506, Chapel Hill
The Bad Checks dug it out of retirement for a show last month at
Kings, and now they're apparently on a roll. They've been making
boozed-up psychobilly/punk around these parts since the VERY early
80s, and they haven't lost their edge (nor Hunter Landen, their
frontman, his propensity for falling down onstage).
Dexter Romweber and the New Romans is Dex's large band setup,
featuring drums, add'l percussion, keys, horns, bass, and multiple
guitars. They're huge, and tight, and just all-around amazing. Don't
miss this. (Video [*> http://www.trianglerock.com/video <*] here, see
for yourself.)
Friday, May 12
Caltrop ( http://www.myspace.com/caltropband ) , Year Future (
http://www.myspace.com/yearfuture ) , Autocode
Wetlands, Chapel Hill
Caltrop feature ex-members of El Sucio & Continent. They're
ultra-heavy sludgy Sabbath/droney thunderousness.
Saturday, May 13
Street Sharks ( http://www.myspace.com/streetsharsk ) , Government
Warning ( http://www.myspace.com/governmentwarningrva ) , Pedestrians
( http://www.criminaliq.com/ )
Chaz's Bull City Records, Durham
Daniel from [*> http://www.deadmetaphor.com/ <*] Dead Metaphor
(post-DeepFryBonanza, if you remember that punk webzine) booked this
show, and sent these descriptions. He didn't send a description of
Government Warning because, apparently, at the time he sent the mail,
the lineup was different.
Pedestrians: 80s-sounding punk from Chicago. They're usually compared
either to classic Chicago punk a la the Effigies and Naked Raygun or
to Dez-on-vocals-era Black Flag. Both comparisons have something to
them but neither says it all.
Street Sharks: Pop-punk-influenced hardcore from Raleigh. Sort of like
if one of the bands on Flex Your Head tried to sound like Dillinger
Four.
Saturday, May 13
Straight 8s ( http://www.straight8s.com ) , The Crimson Spectre (
http://www.slavemagazine.com/crimsonspectre/ ) , The Tremors (
http://www.tremorsrockabilly.com/ ) , The Goons (
http://www.thegoons.com/ )
The Garage, Winston-Salem
This is billed as The Greasers vs. The Punks, with the Tremors & the
Straight 8s (both rockabilly trios in that neotraditional
standup-bass/drums/hollowbody guitar style) as the Greasers, and the
Goons & the mighty Crimson Spectre as the Punks.
Saturday, May 13
Roman Candle ( http://www.romancandlemusic.com/ ) , Thad Cockrell (
http://www.thadcockrell.com/ ) , Keegan DeWitt (
http://www.keegandewitt.com/ )
Local 506, Chapel Hill
Thad Cockrell makes heartbreaking/heartbroken country music; he used
to live here but last year decamped to Nashville, a town which he's
much too good for. Roman Candle are the Matheny brothers, who grew up
in North Wilkesboro; they make light breezy pop that shows just enough
roots/country influence to make it more interesting than most light
breezy pop. Keegan DeWitt is a friend of theirs, but his site breaks
my browser so I don't know the details.
Saturday, May 13
Leadfoot ( http://www.leadfoot.net/ )
Slim's Downtown, Raleigh
Sunday, May 14
Opening Flower Happy Bird (
http://www.myspace.com/openingflowerhappybird )
WXDU 88.7 FM, Durham
Opening Flower Happy Bird are half from the Triangle and half from
Richmond. There are two of them, and they make excellent
gtr-keyboards-drums/drum-machine sing-song low-fi pop with weird
elaborate narrative lyrics and just the right amount of falling-apart.
5:00 p.m. 88.7FM or www.wxdu.org.
Sunday, May 14
MC Frontalot ( http://www.frontalot.com/ )
Local 506, Chapel Hill
Monday, May 15
Art Brut ( http://www.artbrut.org.uk/ ) , The Robocop Kraus (
http://www.therobocopkraus.de/ ) , Think About Life (
http://www.thinkaboutlife.org )
Cat's Cradle, Carrboro
Monday, May 15
The Essex Green ( http://www.essexgreen.com/ ) , Destructionnaire (
http://www.myspace.com/destructionnaire )
Kings, Raleigh
Tuesday, May 16
Blood on the Wall ( http://www.bloodonthewall.com ) , Psychic Ills (
http://www.myspace.com/psychicills ) , Invasion (
http://www.myspace.com/invasionmusic )
Local 506, Chapel Hill
Wednesday, May 17
Transportation ( http://www.myspace.com/transportation )
The Cave, Chapel Hill
This is the late show (the Cave website sez the early show is the
Spinns' Talk Show, but I heard they broke up. I guess that'll give
them a lot to talk about.) which means 10:30ish.
Transportation have been in the "about to release a brilliant album
that will knock us all on our asses" holding-pattern for about, oh, 3
years now. They make chaotic/eclectic 70s-influenced rock; if I had to
pick a single referent it would be Queen, in their ability to go from
piano ballads to all-out guitars-blazing ROCK.
Thursday, May 18 - Sunday May 21
Soundscape Movement Fest ( http://www.soundscapefest.org/ )
various locales, Chapel Hill
Soundscape Movement Fest is an ambitious collaboration between local
dance and improv-music folks. The shows are at the following times and
places (there are also workshops; more info about all of this is at
[*> http://www.soundscapefest.org/ <*] the website):
Thursday, May 18:
Carrboro ArtsCenter - 8:00 p.m.
Nightlight - 10:00 p.m.
Friday, May 19:
Local 506 - 9:00 p.m.
Saturday, May 20:
Carrboro ArtsCenter - 8:00 p.m.
Nightlight - 10:00 p.m.
Thursday, May 18
DMVB ( http://www.myspace.com/dmvb ) , Ghostfinger (
http://www.myspace.com/ghostfinger ) , New Lou Reeds (
http://www.newloureeds.com/ )
Kings, Raleigh
Thursday, May 18
Work Clothes ( http://www.workclothesmusic.com/ ) , North Elementary (
http://www.northelementary.com ) , J. Phono, Venice is Sinking (
http://www.veniceissinking.net )
Wetlands, Chapel Hill
Work Clothes in their recent/current 5-piece (gtr/bass/drums/piano)
lineup are one of the 5 best bands in Chapel Hill. Lee & Jenny write
beautiful hushed bedroom pop songs, and then the band expands them
into masterful rock anthems.
North Elementary make loopy/wandery stoner-pop. Venice is Sinking are
from Athens.
Friday, May 19
Pleasant ( http://www.pleasantmusic.com ) , The Sames (
http://www.thesames.com ) , The Rosebuds ( http://www.therosebuds.com/
) , Schooner ( http://www.schoonermusic.com ) , Audubon Park (
http://audubonpark.blogspot.com )
Cat's Cradle, Carrboro
The show of the season, and it's free, even. 'tis bittersweet, of
course, because the occasion is the demise of the Sames, who're
calling it quits after ~4-5 years, and at least three times that many
perfect noisepop songs. Measure the esteem in which they're held
locally via this lineup:
Rosebuds
Schooner
Pleasant
North Elementary
Audubon Park
The Torch Marauder
Pox Family Singers
Put simply: Don't miss this show.
Friday, May 19
AOK ( http://www.myspace.com/aoknc ) , Deep Sea Diving (
http://www.myspace.com/deepseadiving ) , Across the Elementary (
http://www.myspace.com/acrosstheelementary ) , State Park, European
Ambulance
305 South, Durham
I think Across the Elementary, Deep Sea Diving & AOK are all young
Triangle bands who share overlapping membership, but I can't quite
suss out all the details.
Friday, May 19
Twilighter ( http://www.twilighterband.com/ ) , Glissade (
http://www.myspace.com/glissade )
The Cave, Chapel Hill
Friday, May 19
Oakley Hall ( http://www.oakleyhall.net/ ) , TV Knife (
http://www.myspace.com/tvknife ) , The Longshoremen
Kings, Raleigh
Saturday, May 20
The Apes ( http://www.selfstarterfoundation.com/apes.html ) , Liars (
http://www.liarsliarsliars.com/ ) , Deerhunter (
http://www.notownsound.net/deerhunter/ )
Cat's Cradle, Carrboro
Saturday, May 20
Evil Wiener ( http://www.evilwienerworld.com/ ) , Bombshell
The Cave, Chapel Hill
Evil Wiener you know about: they've been making utterly charming &
naive popmusic (but with a decidedly sinister undertone) for the past
12-14 years or so. They are a North Carolina Treasure, and it's about
time that somebody from Raleigh awarded them some kind of certificate
testifying to that.
Bombshell are a new supergroup of old fogeys; at present I don't
recall all the fogeys involved, but I know that two of them are Danny
Hooley (Ugly Americans, Orange Driver) and Sarah Reichman (Cat Toy).
Saturday, May 20
Black Skies ( http://www.myspace.com/losblackskies )
Slim's Downtown, Raleigh
Black Skies evolved from a band called The Man; they make Heavy Rock
that's rendered heavier by the fact that their frontman is
ex-Smearcase singer / Cradle doorman Kevin Clark, who never met an
Iggy Pop he didn't like.
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Message: 10
Date: 11 May 2006 16:32:08 -0700
From: "chaz" <bullcityrocks AT gmail.com>
Subject: Direct Control, Pedestrians, Street Sharks! 9:30pm Saturday!
@ Bull City Records
To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <1147390328.713393.205130 AT j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
ooooooohhh man, here it comes!
for all of ya looking for something to do this saturday, i might just
have the answer. we're talking a night of some serious rock.
**Saturday, May 13th, 2006**
- 9:30pm.
- come celebrate the big 6 monther for Chaz's Bull City Records.
- surprised i'm still around? yeah, me too!!
- so let's celebrate it!
borrowed from Hank and Daniel's posts (they're good at hyping):
Direct Control (Rva)- King's of Bucktown Hardcore! This is there first
show in Durham. So bring your sweatpants and stained Poison Idea shirt!
You'll be controled!
The Pedestians (Chicago, IL)- 80s-sounding punk from Chicago. They're
usually compared either to classic Chicago punk a la the Effigies and
Naked Raygun or to Dez-on-vocals-era Black Flag. Both comparisons have
something to them but neither says it all.
Street Sharks (Raleigh, NC)- Pop-punk-influenced hardcore from Raleigh.
Sort of like
if one of the bands on Flex Your Head tried to sound like Dillinger
Four.
there're rumors runnin amuck that the illustrious Government Warning
could grace us with their presence...
come on out!
gonna be sweeeet!
please bring 5$ or so so that the pedestrians can continue on.
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 20:00:54 -0400
From: DJ Marco <djmarco AT solidsoundsystem.com>
Subject: MASALA BEAT CLUB this FRIDAY! CD Giveaways!
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We've got lots of special guests tomorrow night plus more free CDs!
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FRIDAY, MAY 12 :: 11pm-2am and beyond
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MASALA BEAT CLUB
at TALULLA'S
456 W. Franklin St. :: Chapel Hill, NC :: USA :: 919.933.1177
w/ DJ Marco + DJ Mogambo
$3 ADMISSION
Catch the best bhangra, bollywood, hiphop, dancehall, asian electronic and
reggaeton with a desi twist! Our last event at Talulla's as part of the
Signal Electronic Music Festival was a huge success, so thanks to all those
who worked so tirelessly to make it happen.
This month we will have a visit from a special guest columnist from the DC
magazine The Indian American. No stranger to Chapel Hill, she will be
joining us from our nation's capital to write a story on the longest running
Bhangra, Bollywood and Asian Underground party in the South East!
The Professional Indian Association (PIA) will also be concluding its
monthly meeting with a "meeting-and-dinner" around 9pm at Talulla's and
sticking around to dance with us, so all professional desis come on out and
mingle!
http://www.talullas.com/
http://www.solidsoundsystem.com/music/music.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pia_nc
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FREE CDs!!!
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We still have some CDs left from our last giveaway, so here's the info
again:
First off is the new LOOK INSIDE CD by Canadian female singing sensation
Harj Uppal! We'll be debuting about 4-5 tracks from the album at this week's
party and you can preview the CD and see a video at Harj's site here:
http://www.harjuppal.com/
Our second giveaway is the killer compilation BHOOD THE ALBUM VOL. 1 from
Bollyhood Records. Marco has been playing several cuts at Masala Beat Club
over the past several months including RDB & Elephant Man's "Ishq Naag,"
Shakti's "Let's Go," and Sumeet's "Agony (Desi Remix)" so this is one CD you
need to cop! Read more here:
http://www.bollyhoodrecords.com/
The first people to print out this message and bring it to Marco on Friday
night will get their choice of either a LOOK INSIDE or a BHOOD THE ALBUM CD!
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HEAR THE LATEST DESI TUNES ONLINE!
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BOBBY FRICTION & NIHAL on BBC RADIO1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/urban/bobbyandnihal/
GEET BAZAAR South Asian Music Show with AFROZ TAJ
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http://www.wknc.org/
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 00:19:16 GMT
From: Lisa Drake <ldrake AT pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <ldrake-D2C742.20191811052006 AT news.west.earthlink.net>
Can't you buy underwear at Dollar General in Carrboro Plaza?
Doesn't that count as Carrboro?
In article <20060511151022.17075.qmail AT web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
jameshepler AT yahoo.com (James Hepler) wrote:
Paypal me some cash and your size, I'll cover your
netherneeds.
--- Chris Calloway <ifoufo AT yahoo.com> wrote:
> dj biscotti and i were looking at the place from the
> visart parking lot sat eve before the sign was up
> wondering what was to be. taking the bus home last
> eve
> about 8pm, i saw a buncha folks in there, too. i
> wondered if the place had anything in common with
> the
> federal, cuz there was a kinda federal vibe coming
> out
> of the place i could feel even on the bus. and i'd
> been thinking a coupla days afore, ok, now that i've
> moved to carrboro, i've got most everthing i had
> before in durham except there's no stinking federal
> here. and now there is. just in time. for me to be
> stinking broke again. cuz now i live in carrboro,
> twice as expensive as durham. and i kinda had to
> save
> up for trips to the federal.
>
> but i ride the bus for free. whoo-hoo! i'm down to
> one
> tank of gas per month now, which is really only for
> the monthly out of town experience. during the week,
> the old rust bucket just stays parked. i hear that
> may
> be coming to durham. that bus for free thing, that
> is.
>
> and i got 4 mint plants (of the 4 variety in the
> 4:2:1:1 ratio of amch/7:10:97) at the farmer's
> market,
> sat not wed version, including a cedar box of
> dimension 36x8 to sit atop the deck railing in
> 15:14:16 soil. after the new 1.5l bottle is gone,
> which could take awhile given my ultra slow sip
> rate,
> it will be back to evan wms green label for me as
> well.
>
> but there is still no place in which to purchase new
> underwear, not that i'm not stocked with reserves.
> i'm
> convinced nobody in carrboro wears any underwear,
> unless it comes used from the pta thrift store. i'm
> just saying in case the reserve ever runs low and i
> forget to do laundry. and the bus stops running
> before
> the movies let out. that cannot be good for
> business.
> although i can get a pair of socks at weaver street
> for five times the going rate anywhere else in
> america. if i wanted brightly tie dyed socks, that
> is.
> bizzaro world. contraction.
>
> so... tor, you know tor, he's another backer of
> milltown.
>
> the soil is very different here. many rocks. and
> there
> are no yard sales.
>
> the name of tyler's was originally to have been
> "milltown bistro."
>
> 3
>
> > And when I drove by last night at 6:30 or so, the
> > patio was slam-full of
> > people, so I guess the word got out somehow. Any
> of
> > y'all among the
> > pioneers? I would've been, but I blew my weekly
> > dining budget at Ben's
> > Chili Bowl in DC on Sunday.
> >
> > Jordy wrote:
> > > Don't know if somebody already mentioned this
> > but...
> > >
> > > (From the Chapel Hill News online, May 6, 2006)
> > >
> > > Milltown to open at old Temple Ball
> > >
> > > Milltown, a new restaurant, is scheduled to open
> > Wednesday, May 10, in the
> > > former Temple Ball space at 307 E. Main St. in
> > Carrboro.
> > >
> > > Josh Wittman, one of the owners of the Federal
> in
> > Durham, has partnered
> > > with several folks from the Federal and others.
> He
> > expects that, like the
> > > Federal, Milltown will be known for eclectic
> food
> > at reasonable prices.
> > > The menu includes mussels and frites,
> slow-cooked
> > ribs, fish tacos and
> > > daily specials.
> > >
> > > Milltown, which also has patio seating, will
> offer
> > lunch and dinner and a
> > > large late-night menu until 2 a.m.
> > >
> >
>
(http://www.chapelhillnews.com/news/story/2941138p-9382833c.html)
> > >
> > > Dig it!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jordy
> > > -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 21:43:50 -0400
From: grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: Milltown restaurant opens today
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Just got back from dinner there. Waitstaff still not firing on all
cylinders (either that or they're doing a damn-fine Federal
impersonation, only moreso), but the kitchen is running at 100%, at
least in the Mussels department.
I didn't manage to memorize the menu, but what I remember are as follows:
Apps: $4 Guglhupf bread (oh $2 Federal Baguette, ye shall be missed)
a soup, some salads, some nachos, a cheese plate, a sausage plate.
Didn't try any of them, which is probably why I'm forgetting half of
what was a fairly extensive list.
Sandwiches: burger, Big Pork Sandwich, grilled cheese, ribeye, probably
something involving chicken as well
Entrees: mushrooms au gratin, a polenta thing, ribs, some variety of
chicken, fish tacos, steak frites, mussels done 4 different ways
I had the mussels. They melted delightfully in my mouth, moreso than
about any other mussels I can recall having in recent memory. They left
behind a bucketful of buttery wine with big hunks of onion, shallots,
and whole cloves of garlic; bread was helpfully supplied for sopping up
said elixir. Also a big plate of fries, of the "so thin that a lot of
them wind up kinda crispy" variety.
15 beers on tap, of which 3 aren't yet operational. Pretty good
cross-section, assuming you're not looking for mainstream american crap.
If you've been to Federal, will seem familiar to you. Another 100 or so
beers in bottles. I don't like bottles so I can't really speak to that,
but there were a damn lot of them.
People at tables seemed to be getting somewhat frantic service from what
appeared to be a decidedly Federal-esque understaffed waitstaff. People
at the long bar-like communal table in the middle of the room didn't
appear to be getting served at all, or at least I didn't in the 10
minutes I sat there. People at the actual bar got excellent attentive
service, and the food came out in an entirely reasonable timeframe.
They could use a traffic-control type maitre d'/host/hostess/whatever,
as the place is just slightly too spread out for it to run itself. Lotta
people milling around in the middle of the room trying to figure out
what to do/where to sit.
But it's their second night, and if that's their only problem, then
they're doing just fine, especially given how many people were crammed
in there. As I was walking up the street towards the place, I was trying
to think of other joints in Carrboro that fit the same niche, and I
couldn't think of any (there's Tylers, but I rarely eat food at Tylers
that manages to exceed "passable"), and I was thus much afraid that
Milltown would be overloaded with eager Carrboroians. And it was. And
with food that good, and in the $7 - $15 range, I suspect it's going to
stay that way.
Now if only Greenbridge would hurry up & get built so I can move into
it, I'll have the next 10 or so years of my life all set.
Ross
Bob Wall wrote:
Went to Milltown for lunch today. All in all thumbs up. Then againI'll
eat anywhere.
Bob
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:41:47 -0400
From: grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
Subject: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?"
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <4464909B.9070000 AT ibiblio.org>
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Probably already discussed to death on that other, hipper music list
you're all on, but it's Friday and I got precious little to do at work
at present:
http://www.slate.com/id/2141421/
Steve Albini sez:
http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=223811#223811
Jessica Hopper claims that it's not Stephin's embrace of "Zippity Doo
Dah" *nor* his distaste for Beyonce (um, OK), but rather his "unconcern
for the last 50 years of black music" (
http://tiny.abstractdynamics.org/archives/007762.html ) that calls his
racial politics into question. (Simon Reynolds elucidates further here:
http://blissout.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_blissout_archive.html#11466868178
3360454
)
So: how many records by artists of races other than one's own does one
have to own/listen to in order to escape charges of racism? And does one
have to keep the collection current? I mean, a majority of the black
people in my record collection are either dead or at least really old, I
suspect, though I haven't exactly done a census.
I find a lot of the current hip-hop that I'm exposed to, via TV & radio,
to be pretty boring, repetitive, and derivative. Those exact same
adjectives could also be used to describe my feelings about most music
of most other genres as well, though. Go figure. Pop culture can be
boring. Who'd a thunk it? I also know that there's a tiny subset of
current hip-hop that's consistently pushing the envelope & is every bit
as exciting, presumably, as the tiny subset of indie-rock that's still
interesting. I don't really buy much/any indie-rock anymore, either. The
last 3 CDs I bought were that new Candi Staton (meme collision: the best
song on it was written by Will Oldham), that Pyramid album from last
year, and Muddy Waters' "Hard Again." (the half-dozen before that were
either local [indie-rock] bands or the Rhino Doo-Wop and Girl Groups box
sets, depending on how you count to six).
So I may not be a racist, but rather just a terminal square? Whatever
happened to just gleefully mocking peoples' musical tastes themselves?
Ross
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 07:32:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: James Hepler <jameshepler AT yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?"
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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Ugh. What we need are more stupid articles talking
about stupid people saying stupid things about other
stupid people. I guess there's no actual music for
slate to talk about this week in Music Box?
Sorry, my bed had two wrong sides this morning.
--- grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
Probably already discussed to death on that other,http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=223811#223811
hipper music list
you're all on, but it's Friday and I got precious
little to do at work
at present:
http://www.slate.com/id/2141421/
Steve Albini sez:
http://tiny.abstractdynamics.org/archives/007762.html
Jessica Hopper claims that it's not Stephin's
embrace of "Zippity Doo
Dah" *nor* his distaste for Beyonce (um, OK), but
rather his "unconcern
for the last 50 years of black music" (
) that calls hishttp://blissout.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_blissout_archive.html#11466868178
racial politics into question. (Simon Reynolds
elucidates further here:
3360454
)
So: how many records by artists of races other than
one's own does one
have to own/listen to in order to escape charges of
racism? And does one
have to keep the collection current? I mean, a
majority of the black
people in my record collection are either dead or at
least really old, I
suspect, though I haven't exactly done a census.
I find a lot of the current hip-hop that I'm exposed
to, via TV & radio,
to be pretty boring, repetitive, and derivative.
Those exact same
adjectives could also be used to describe my
feelings about most music
of most other genres as well, though. Go figure. Pop
culture can be
boring. Who'd a thunk it? I also know that there's a
tiny subset of
current hip-hop that's consistently pushing the
envelope & is every bit
as exciting, presumably, as the tiny subset of
indie-rock that's still
interesting. I don't really buy much/any indie-rock
anymore, either. The
last 3 CDs I bought were that new Candi Staton (meme
collision: the best
song on it was written by Will Oldham), that Pyramid
album from last
year, and Muddy Waters' "Hard Again." (the
half-dozen before that were
either local [indie-rock] bands or the Rhino Doo-Wop
and Girl Groups box
sets, depending on how you count to six).
So I may not be a racist, but rather just a terminal
square? Whatever
happened to just gleefully mocking peoples' musical
tastes themselves?
Ross
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 09:34:59 -0500
From: Duncan Murrell <duncan AT rattlejar.com>
Subject: Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?"
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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In one of those posts someone (Steve Albini?) touched on this, but
what's the answer when you reverse the question: Are you _not_ a
racist if you love music made by people who don't look like you?
I've met plenty of crackers here in New Orleans who don't just like,
but LOVE everything even passingly associated with "black" music.
They would leap into a puddle and let Ellis Marsalis walk on their
backs so as not to soil his shoes, they go "into the hood" (as they
say) to see brass bands or Kermit Ruffins at Vaughns, Fats Domino can
just stand on the stage for a couple of minutes and the entire city
goes wild. And even Juvenile (hometown hero) packed the joint at
JazzFest. DJ Soul Sistah is a local radio legend who plays to an
almost exclusively white crowd at a place called Mimi's on Sunday
nights.
I won't generalize about these fans, but I will say (and I'm sure
that anyone familiar with the history of jazz and the blues already
knows this) that loving music made by black musicians does not
inoculate against racism. I sense myself about to get caught in a
logical fallacy, so I'll stop. But at least we know that if Stephin
Merritt loved hip-hop, we'd still know nothing about his racial
attitudes. Thus, the whole question seems foolish.
And, anyway, his critics seem to be privileging what's popular,
leaving this question: is it possible that Stephin Merritt's bigger
problem is with the state of popular music in general, of which
"black" music is, and always has been in America, a significant part?
Albini gets at that question directly. What if he didn't love my
favorite salsa and Cuban bands? Or what if he really dislikes Django
Reinhardt and new gypsy swing? Does he hate gypsies? They've limited
the question to concern only that music that falls within their own
experience and taste, and is that any less "racist" by their silly
standards?
It's hard not to wonder whether they're just not pissed that he
doesn't like their favorite acts.
d
On May 12, 2006, at 8:41 AM, grady wrote:
Probably already discussed to death on that other, hipper music list
you're all on, but it's Friday and I got precious little to do at work
at present:
htt
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:48:37 -0400
From: "rick sawyer" <rickbang AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?"
To: "RTP-area local music and culture" <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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i'm not sure why so many people give a shit about the crappy music
tastes of a self-important asshole whose brief popularity on college
radio finally seems to be petering out, due, in part, to his laughably
limited vocal range, but mostly to his slavish devotion to Absolute
Value and Genuine Melody. but anyway.
the slate article was frankly irresponsible, as were the original blog
posts. i mean it was an article in an edited, online journal
responding to _posts on blogs_! only arrianna huffington or our own
blighted "independent" put such stock in the so-called blogosphere.
be that as it may, sasha frere-jones got it wrong in the first place.
in a 2004 interview with fellow crappy music zealot sufjan stevens,
merritt dissed a bunch of bands frere-jones likes. frere-jones
interpreted it to rock chauvinism, which was his hobbyhorse at the
time. he went on to notice merritt boosting a bunch of crappy white
rock bands in the new yrok times, and frere-jones cracked wise on his
blog, calling merritt a "cracker," which he is not.
flash forward to 2006, frere-jones reacted to jessica hopper's claims
that merritt was a racist for his appreciation of "song of the south,"
a claim that had no basis and which hopper retracted. frere-jones
noticed that merritt published a list of the best pop songs of the
past century, a tune for each year. he snarked about merritt's
exclusion of black artists (who occupy a dismal 11 slots among the 100
songs), again, on his blog. frere-jones's problem with merritt's list
also stems from his dislike of the rock canon. as merritt's list of
100 songs seems to be a canon on its own right, the exclusion of black
artists seems odd, like omitting toni morrison from an american
literature class. except, in the context of american popular music,
omitting black people is rather more like omitting t.s. eliot.
what frere-jones missed is that merritt was constructing his own
anti-canonical canon. his extremely square, and, admittedly white
(merritt once quipped that his music "could be listened to by the ku
klux klan"), aesthetic is better borne out by the examples he cites.
george gershwin, john cage, steven sondheim, are far more indicative
of his tastes than count basie, marvin gaye, and spoonie g. but his
list is, nonetheless, anti-rock. the rolling stones aren't there; the
stooges aren't there; the sex pistols aren't there. it's a different
way to understand the history of pop music that accords with merritt's
innocuous and precious aesthetic.
the problem isn't so much that merritt "hates hip hop" or that he
"hates beyonce." it's that the standard-bearers of black music, from
john coltrane to sly stone; from gil scott-heron to outkast, hold no
appeal for him. worse, because he is such an asshole, he is openly
dismissive of their work.
but that doesn't make him a "rockist" (or a racist) snob. it just
makes him an idiot. perhaps if merritt's tastes were a little
broader, his music wouldn't sound so "boring, repetitive, and
derivative." but, you like what you like, i guess.
rick!
On 5/12/06, grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
Probably already discussed to death on that other, hipper music list"unconcern
you're all on, but it's Friday and I got precious little to do at work
at present:
http://www.slate.com/id/2141421/
Steve Albini sez:
http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=223811#223811
Jessica Hopper claims that it's not Stephin's embrace of "Zippity Doo
Dah" *nor* his distaste for Beyonce (um, OK), but rather his
for the last 50 years of black music" (his
http://tiny.abstractdynamics.org/archives/007762.html ) that calls
racial politics into question. (Simon Reynolds elucidates furtherhere:
http://blissout.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_blissout_archive.html#11466868178
3360454
)one
So: how many records by artists of races other than one's own does one
have to own/listen to in order to escape charges of racism? And does
have to keep the collection current? I mean, a majority of the blackold, I
people in my record collection are either dead or at least really
suspect, though I haven't exactly done a census.radio,
I find a lot of the current hip-hop that I'm exposed to, via TV &
to be pretty boring, repetitive, and derivative. Those exact samebit
adjectives could also be used to describe my feelings about most music
of most other genres as well, though. Go figure. Pop culture can be
boring. Who'd a thunk it? I also know that there's a tiny subset of
current hip-hop that's consistently pushing the envelope & is every
as exciting, presumably, as the tiny subset of indie-rock that's stillThe
interesting. I don't really buy much/any indie-rock anymore, either.
last 3 CDs I bought were that new Candi Staton (meme collision: thebest
song on it was written by Will Oldham), that Pyramid album from lastbox
year, and Muddy Waters' "Hard Again." (the half-dozen before that were
either local [indie-rock] bands or the Rhino Doo-Wop and Girl Groups
sets, depending on how you count to six).
So I may not be a racist, but rather just a terminal square? Whatever
happened to just gleefully mocking peoples' musical tastes themselves?
Ross
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:01:22 -0400
From: Chris Rossi <nospam AT spacelabstudio.com>
Subject: Re: "Is Stephin Merritt a racist because he doesn't like
hip-hop?"
To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <4464A342.2010501 AT spacelabstudio.com>
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So, in college one time, I was taking this course that was just a high
level survey of Japanese history. One day the professor, a Japanese
man, brings in this music for us to listen to: really super sugary sweet
Japanese pop music, with female vocals. At some point he asks the
question, "Why do you think this isn't popular in the United States?"
I'm normally pretty quiet and non-confrontational, so I'm not sure what
possessed me to raise my hand on this day and say, "Well, we already
have plenty of our own bad pop music, I'm not sure why we'd import more,
in a foreign language." It turns out that was the wrong answer. The
real answer: racism. Go figure. With the entire class clucking in
agreement, I did my damnedest to turn myself invisible. I got an A (I
think) in the course, but the professor wasn't nice to me at all after
that.
So yeah, apparently my distaste for bubble gum pop revealed my hatred
for the entire Japanese people on that day. My enthusiasm for other
Japanese music notwithstanding. I also have a pretty strong dislike for
both Italian and American forms of contemporary pop music. Which means
I hate myself, I guess. And everyone like me. Of course, I think what
I really revealed was a profound lack of social skill and poor judgement
in a group setting.
So, yeah, I guess, what I'm saying is, this "debate" is kind of like
this war protest 323 and I went to in New York one time where we
bombarded pretty much the entire time with about a dozen or so different
communist and socialist groups each griping about how the other
communist and socialist groups weren't communist or socialist enough.
Somehow, I just can't bring myself to care. Good time waster, though,
if you're bored at work.
chris
grady wrote:
Probably already discussed to death on that other, hipper music listwork
you're all on, but it's Friday and I got precious little to do at
at present:"unconcern
http://www.slate.com/id/2141421/
Steve Albini sez:
http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=223811#223811
Jessica Hopper claims that it's not Stephin's embrace of "Zippity Doo
Dah" *nor* his distaste for Beyonce (um, OK), but rather his
for the last 50 years of black music" (his
http://tiny.abstractdynamics.org/archives/007762.html ) that calls
racial politics into question. (Simon Reynolds elucidates furtherhere:
http://blissout.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_blissout_archive.html#11466868178
3360454
)one
So: how many records by artists of races other than one's own does
have to own/listen to in order to escape charges of racism? And doesone
have to keep the collection current? I mean, a majority of the blackold, I
people in my record collection are either dead or at least really
suspect, though I haven't exactly done a census.radio,
I find a lot of the current hip-hop that I'm exposed to, via TV &
to be pretty boring, repetitive, and derivative. Those exact samemusic
adjectives could also be used to describe my feelings about most
of most other genres as well, though. Go figure. Pop culture can bebit
boring. Who'd a thunk it? I also know that there's a tiny subset of
current hip-hop that's consistently pushing the envelope & is every
as exciting, presumably, as the tiny subset of indie-rock that'sstill
interesting. I don't really buy much/any indie-rock anymore, either.The
last 3 CDs I bought were that new Candi Staton (meme collision: thebest
song on it was written by Will Oldham), that Pyramid album from lastwere
year, and Muddy Waters' "Hard Again." (the half-dozen before that
either local [indie-rock] bands or the Rhino Doo-Wop and Girl Groupsbox
sets, depending on how you count to six).
So I may not be a racist, but rather just a terminal square? Whatever
happened to just gleefully mocking peoples' musical tastes themselves?
Ross
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