RTP-area local music and culture

["Heather N. Ramsey" <hnramsey AT yahoo.com>]

I think that a majority of papers ran the Associated Press article with the 
wrong info.
   
  Even some of the local WV papers ran the AP article.
   
  
James Hepler <jameshepler AT yahoo.com> wrote:
    I wonder, did every paper owned by the same company
get it wrong, or is that a local decision?

   


"other than telling us how to live, think, marry, pray, vote, invest, educate 
our children and, now, die, i think the republicans have done a fine job of 
getting government out of our personal lives."
--the portland oregonian


"families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."
--george w. bush

exactly how do wings take dream?
                        
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                                                    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
   
  Wednesday - 1/4 - Intro: - New electic mix.  Music by Keith.  9p-midnight.  
Helios, 413 Glenwood Ave, Midtown Raleigh.  
   
    Friday - 1/6 - First Friday - Between the Aries website and word on the 
street, there are two versions of how the night will go down.  Either the 
Dynasty 5 party will host the hottness or Dj Reed will play perfectly blended 
old-skool hip-hop and dance.  Either way it's a party.  But wouldn't they be 
great together?  Aries, 400 W. Morgan St., Downtown Raleigh - 
www.aries-lounge.com
   
  Saturday - 1/7 - We All Love House - An official invite to the dancers, 
househeadz, entertainers, darlings, profos, geeks, peepers, cuties, students, 
soldiers and divas.  We like to call this night the 'funky and chunky for 
those who like to get down' kind of night.  Come see what the party is all 
about.  Music by Feinberg & Keith.  10p-2a.  Aries, 400 W. Morgan St, 
Downtown Raleigh - www.aries-lounge.com

   
  Also happening:




        Wed  - 1/4 - Remix Project @ White Collar Crime (Raleigh)
  Wed  - 1/4 - Blake @ RedRoom (Raleigh)
  Thu   - 1/5 - 80s Night w/Merlin @ White Collar Crime (Raleigh)
    Thu   - 1/5 - RAW w/LeMoore @ Sushi Blues (Raleigh) - 
www.glamooreproductions.com
  Thu   - 1/5 - Latin Night @ Red Room (Raleigh) - www.trianglefiesta.com 



      Thu   - 1/5 - Djs Joe Bunn & MarkT @ Bogarts (Raleigh)
    Thu   - 1/5 - Theory (Dj Night) @ Wetlands (Chapel Hill)


  Thu   - 1/5 - Trainwreck Thursdays (Dj) @ Aries (Raleigh) - 
www.aries-lounge.com

  Fri     - 1/6 - All Night Costa w/Keith & guests, 7p-2a @ Redroom (Raleigh)
  Fri     - 1/6 - Dj Mooney @ White Collar Crime (Raleigh)
  Fri     - 1/6 - First Friday Latin Night @ Spice Street (Chapel Hill) - 
www.trianglefiesta.com
    Sat    - 1/7 - Costamundo w/Keith, 7-10:30 & Romaric, 10:30-2 @ RedRoom 
(Raleigh)
  Sat    - 1/7 - SOLID! w/Djs Marco & Midnight Cowbwoy @ Ringside (Durham)
  Sat    - 1/7 - Dj Mooney @ White Collar Crime (Raleigh)

    Sun   - 1/8 - Dj Marco @ RedRoom (Raleigh) - www.solidsoundsystem.com
  Sun   - 1/8 - NeuRomance @ Kings (Raleigh)

  Sun   - 1/8 - Family (Dj night) @ West End Wine Bar (Chapel Hill)
  Sun   - 1/8 - Dj MOVE @ White Collar Crime (Raleigh)
  Mon  - 1/9 - CoCo do Brasil w/Keith @ RedRoom (Raleigh)
  Mon  - 1/9 - Wade 3 @ Crowley's of Stonehenge (Raleigh) - www.wade3.com
  Tue   - 1/10 - Green Room (variety show) @ RedRoom (Raleigh)
  Tue   - 1/10 - Evil Dee @ Club Oxygen (Raleigh)
          Tue   - 1/10 - Tequila tuesdays w/Dj Allwayz @ White Collar Crime 
(Raleigh)

  Tue   - 1/10 - ElectroBistro w/Dj Markus Marek & guests @ Fuse (Chapel Hill)
    Tue   - 1/10 - Undertow w/Aron Wayne @ Sirens Lounge (Durham)
   
    Coming soon:
  1/11 - Organix @ Pour House (Raleigh)
  1/26 - Spanish Harlem Orchestra @ Carolina Theatre (Durham)
  1/26 - DJ Williams Projekt @ Pour House (Raleigh)



































































































































































































































































































































































































































                
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Local decision to get it wrong, or to run the story at all? The 
incorrect news came out at midnight+something, and the correction didn't 
come out until 3:00-something, and I guess at that point it was too late 
for the N&O to "stop the presses," as it were.

The question is whether a local editorial board needs to be suspicious 
of an AP wire story sourced only to "family members" who said they had 
heard the news 2ndhand from a mine foreman; the entirety of the sourcing 
for the wire story appears to be as follows:

"A relative at the church said a mine foreman called relatives there, 
saying the miners had been found alive.

Neither the company nor the office of Gov. Joe Manchin III immediately 
confirmed the news."

The Baltimore Sun had a longer version under its own reporter's byline, 
which used sentences from the AP wire & also added an apparent 2ndary 
source, "state officials," who seemed to imply without confirming that 
there were multiple survivors, as I'm not sure it's necessary to assess 
the condition of a corpse much beyond the initial diagnosis, as it were:

"A relative at the church said a mine foreman called relatives there, 
saying the miners had been found alive.

One by one, about a dozen ambulances arrived near the mine entrance. 
State officials last night said they were assessing the miners' 
conditions as they were brought to the surface but would not confirm 
that all 12 had survived.

Neither the company nor the office of Gov. Joe Manchin III immediately 
confirmed the news. The first ambulance left the mine at 1:13 a.m. to 
cheers and applause from those gathered."

I dunno. How would *you* have called it? Rewrite the AP wire story to 
add the word "apparently" a bunch of times? Run nothing at all & have a 
giant hole on the front page where everybody expects to see some news 
about the miners? I have no idea what I would've done, although I 
suspect a rewrite to emphasize the tenuous sourcing would have been 
logical. But that depends on when they put the paper to bed; I have no 
idea when the go/no-go point for the N&O is, other than apparently 
earlier than 3:00a.m.

Ross

James Hepler wrote:
> I wonder, did every paper owned by the same company
> get it wrong, or is that a local decision?
> 
> --- John I <not AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> James Hepler wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of the N&O.  Ouch for them, getting it
>> wrong
>>> on the headline.
>>>
>>
>> If you're talking about the miners: yeah.
>>
>> I found out about the mistake this morning reading a
>> few weblogs and went to 
>> the N&O site to see what they had said.  I could
>> find nothing current about 
>> the mine accident so I guessed that they had gotten
>> it wrong in their print 
>> edition and had scrubbed the story from their
>> website.  It looks like I might 
>> be right.  
>>
>> A similar thing happened in the past few weeks with
>> a story about Tom Delay's 
>> request that Texas Court Criminal Appeals hear
>> DeLay's money laundering case.  
>> The court agreed to consider hearing it, but it was
>> widely reported 
>> (including in the N&O) that the court had decided to
>> hear it (from a 
>> statement made by Delay's lawyer).  I tried to
>> confirm what the N&O had 
>> printed on the subject by visiting their website,
>> but lo; the story was 
>> missing.
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