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- From: keith <wardke1 AT yahoo.com>
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- Subject: CoCo do Brasil
- Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:46:55 -0800 (PST)
CoCo
do
Brasil
Melody and rhythm that moves the hips and feet of more than 186,112,794
people. You're invited to take a listen.
music by keith
mondays
7- 11p
Special half-price menu for guests of Coco do Brasil
RedRoom
510 Glenwood Ave
Midtown Raleigh
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I think there are worse things than Starbucks, actually. Can't say I
like their coffe that much, but it's great that you can get an
acceptable cup in unlikely places these days (one of you mentioned it +
soymilk in middle America). Instead of retyping what I posted to
OrangePolitics a few months ago, I'll just paste it in.
I'm interested in your opinions. Maybe we should start another thread,
but it is, in fact, tied in with downtown success markers. Here it is:
Re: Starbucks - confuse them with McDonalds at your peril. I'm
assuming that many people on this list consider themselves progressive,
as I do myself. I think progressives need to define the real
"enemy" better. I've had friends that have worked at Starbucks
who received a retirement plan, free coffee beans (excellent for grad
students...) and best of all, health insurance. That's a big one. 15%
of this country doesn't have it, and Starbucks gives it to even
part-timers (I think). That's quite a resource if you're a rocker,
writer or just like the idea of working less than 30 hours a week. As
someone who does insurance yet advocates for National Health, I find
this to be a wonderful thing.
They give their old coffee grounds to gardeners. Sure, it's just trash,
but they bag it up, and that costs more than just tossing it into a
landfill. Considering how many cups they sell in a year, that's a lot
of waste that is going to good use.
So, Costco is not Wal Mart, and Whole Foods is not just another grocery
store. If these good corporate citizens were the worst that were out
there, it would be a lovely world. At the same time, don't just take
on faith that Working Assets is good. I recently discovered that they
are actually more than a little scummy, and I'm going to move my
phone service as a result.
I'm not a fan of Starbucks coffee, but I drink it when it's all
there is, and it beats what used to pass for take-away. Many studies
have shown that places like Starbucks can have a positive effect on a
town's indie coffee houses. The loser is Maxwell House. A "coffee
culture" develops, and there is plenty of room for all of the
purveyors now that a discriminating population has been forged.
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CoCo do Brasil,
keith, 12/05/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- CoCo do Brasil, keith, 12/12/2005
- CoCo do Brasil, keith, 12/19/2005
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