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  • From: Bo Williams <bowilliams AT gmail.com>
  • To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 16, Issue 23
  • Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:11:10 -0500

I am asking if $150 apartments actually exist.


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:05:46 -0500, Sorren Thule <sorren23 AT nc.rr.com> wrote:
> kidding in what way? That they don't exist or that I would not be in
> heaven? I await clarification
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bo Williams" <bowilliams AT gmail.com>
> To: "RTP-area local music and culture" <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 16, Issue 23
>
> > One-room apartments for $150 a month? You're kidding, right?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:24:08 -0500, Sorren Thule <sorren23 AT nc.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >> and new dominion avenue, which is probably coming in more handy than
> >> freedom
> >> or democracy right now <wink>
> >>
> >> I predict that your prediction of 2 years will come true, possibly in
> >> spades. The only way they could maybe fix this situation is if they made
> >> the apartments over the cradle wonderful 1-room beauties based very
> >> closely
> >> on the ones over marathon pizza. If I could live by myself for 150.00 a
> >> month (and walk home after the show) I would be in heaven. And maybe
> >> soundproofing? But the bass . .. . it's thumpin' . . .
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Allen, Richard" <RAllen AT WWNORTON.com>
> >> To: <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:15 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 16, Issue 23
> >>
> >> Right now in Williamsburg and the Lower East Side, NYC, clubs are being
> >> shut
> >> down because investment bankers are buying apartments in what they see as
> >> "hot" "hip" "underpriced" (to them) neighborhoods, then complaining about
> >> the very things that create hotness and hipness in those neighborhoods,
> >> i.e.
> >> the nightclubs.
> >>
> >> People with money (I would say yuppies except that the term is
> >> meaningless
> >> now) buy near clubs because they imagine a fun atmosphere which will
> >> offset
> >> the drabness of their lives. Then they have a kid and get livid because
> >> the
> >> booming bass 10 blocks away wakes the baby, which cries all night. Then
> >> the
> >> yuppies (so to speak, we're all whores here) can't get enough sleep to
> >> slog
> >> through their 80 hour a week jobs, and they march down to City Hall. They
> >> own property and pay a lot of taxes, so they always win in the end.
> >>
> >> If you put 100 apartments atop the Cat's Cradle, I guarantee one of the
> >> buyers is going to have a problem with the music within 2 years of the
> >> apartments going on the market, and there will be big problems.
> >>
> >> Another consideration: this development sounds vaguely like the Reston
> >> Town
> >> Center, scourge of my hometown (if by scourge one means the sort of place
> >> one hates and everyone else loves) - a fake downtown area which looks and
> >> feels like a movie set. Sounds like a good compromise on paper but is
> >> entirely prefab and gross in real life. Carrboro is a small town, not a
> >> suburb in need of a fake downtown where "Freedom Street" meets "Democracy
> >> Drive."
> >>
> >> for reference:
> >> http://www.restontowncenter.com/popmap.html
> >>
> >> RA
> >>
> >> Message: 14
> >> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:06:39 -0500
> >> From: grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
> >> Subject: Re: cradle & arts center move
> >> To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> >> Message-ID: <421CAA0F.80808 AT ibiblio.org>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> >>
> >> Heh. I hope they read the "First Person" thing in last week's Indy by
> >> the lady who moved into Downtown Durham expecting it to be silent as a
> >> fucking tomb, all about how upset she is that there's a club in Downtown
> >> Durham that makes noise after dark.
> >>
> >> And while I sure as shit wouldn't want to live anywhere near a club,
> >> especially one with booming bass, that's one reason why I bought several
> >> acres of land in the country & built a house smack in the middle of it.
> >> Rather than, you know, buying a building right in the middle of a
> >> downtown commercial district & then moving into it.
> >>
> >> I said this when Christa posted the previous info, and I'll say it
> >> again: I predict hasslements from people moving into the
> >> apartment/condos in this development if there is *any* noise after 10:00
> >> p.m. from either the Cradle, the ArtsCenter, or the new outdoor
> >> amphitheater between them.
> >>
> >> I love the idea of mixed-use developments and people living above
> >> commercial space, but it may be harder than people imagine to quickly
> >> make the transition from a suburban/small-town headspace to a more
> >> urban/mixed-use headspace. Certainly the person who wrote the piece in
> >> the Indy seemed to have *no* room in her headspace for the notion that a
> >> downtown area might be noisy after dark.
> >>
> >> Ross
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