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  • From: Bo Williams <bowilliams AT gmail.com>
  • To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 16, Issue 23
  • Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:06:44 -0500

One-room apartments for $150 a month? You're kidding, right?


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:24:08 -0500, Sorren Thule <sorren23 AT nc.rr.com> wrote:
> and new dominion avenue, which is probably coming in more handy than freedom
> or democracy right now <wink>
>
> I predict that your prediction of 2 years will come true, possibly in
> spades. The only way they could maybe fix this situation is if they made
> the apartments over the cradle wonderful 1-room beauties based very closely
> on the ones over marathon pizza. If I could live by myself for 150.00 a
> month (and walk home after the show) I would be in heaven. And maybe
> soundproofing? But the bass . .. . it's thumpin' . . .
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allen, Richard" <RAllen AT WWNORTON.com>
> To: <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:15 PM
> Subject: RE: Ch-scene Digest, Vol 16, Issue 23
>
> Right now in Williamsburg and the Lower East Side, NYC, clubs are being shut
> down because investment bankers are buying apartments in what they see as
> "hot" "hip" "underpriced" (to them) neighborhoods, then complaining about
> the very things that create hotness and hipness in those neighborhoods, i.e.
> the nightclubs.
>
> People with money (I would say yuppies except that the term is meaningless
> now) buy near clubs because they imagine a fun atmosphere which will offset
> the drabness of their lives. Then they have a kid and get livid because the
> booming bass 10 blocks away wakes the baby, which cries all night. Then the
> yuppies (so to speak, we're all whores here) can't get enough sleep to slog
> through their 80 hour a week jobs, and they march down to City Hall. They
> own property and pay a lot of taxes, so they always win in the end.
>
> If you put 100 apartments atop the Cat's Cradle, I guarantee one of the
> buyers is going to have a problem with the music within 2 years of the
> apartments going on the market, and there will be big problems.
>
> Another consideration: this development sounds vaguely like the Reston Town
> Center, scourge of my hometown (if by scourge one means the sort of place
> one hates and everyone else loves) - a fake downtown area which looks and
> feels like a movie set. Sounds like a good compromise on paper but is
> entirely prefab and gross in real life. Carrboro is a small town, not a
> suburb in need of a fake downtown where "Freedom Street" meets "Democracy
> Drive."
>
> for reference:
> http://www.restontowncenter.com/popmap.html
>
> RA
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:06:39 -0500
> From: grady <grady AT ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: cradle & arts center move
> To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Heh. I hope they read the "First Person" thing in last week's Indy by
> the lady who moved into Downtown Durham expecting it to be silent as a
> fucking tomb, all about how upset she is that there's a club in Downtown
> Durham that makes noise after dark.
>
> And while I sure as shit wouldn't want to live anywhere near a club,
> especially one with booming bass, that's one reason why I bought several
> acres of land in the country & built a house smack in the middle of it.
> Rather than, you know, buying a building right in the middle of a
> downtown commercial district & then moving into it.
>
> I said this when Christa posted the previous info, and I'll say it
> again: I predict hasslements from people moving into the
> apartment/condos in this development if there is *any* noise after 10:00
> p.m. from either the Cradle, the ArtsCenter, or the new outdoor
> amphitheater between them.
>
> I love the idea of mixed-use developments and people living above
> commercial space, but it may be harder than people imagine to quickly
> make the transition from a suburban/small-town headspace to a more
> urban/mixed-use headspace. Certainly the person who wrote the piece in
> the Indy seemed to have *no* room in her headspace for the notion that a
> downtown area might be noisy after dark.
>
> Ross
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