RTP-area local music and culture

[Chris Welbon <ctw AT neophi.com>]

> Message: 41
> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 15:51:41 -0500
> From: bendy <bendonnelly AT rushpost.com>
> Subject: Re: Will Chapel-Hill/Carrboro be next?
>
> Nathaniel Florin wrote:
> > Pennsylvania's is charmingly simple: "A common-law
> > marriage may be established if a man and woman
> > exchange words that indicate that they intend to be
> > married at the present time."
>
> I believe this is because of PA's Quaker heritage. I've got some friends
> in Pittsburgh who married at the reception hall without anyone
> officiating. They just had to sign the marriage license and have some
> number of witnesses.

Indeed.  You can get a Quaker marriage license, and do away with some
legal/religious/patriarchal officiant who has "power vested in them by the
blah blah blah."  The number of witnesses need only be two, from what I
recall, and they have to sign the license too.  Then you mail it back to
the county you get it from, and--boom!--like it or not, you're married.

(Felt rather like getting an MD or a PhD from the Caribbean, if you ask
me.)

I don't know if this is related to, separate from, or the same as a
common-law marriage as far as Pennsylvania is concerned.  Nor, for that
matter, do I recall whether the license specifies man/woman.

But then, there's a lot about the whole experience that I'm blocking out.

Fandango (MD/PhD)


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> Message: 42
> Date: 4 Mar 2004 12:45:20 -0800
> From: jhart AT ipass.net (Jeff Hart)
> Subject: matinee show at kings this sunday: dom casual, the nevers,
>       yours truly
> To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Message-ID: <662c578e.0403041245.2f87d2db AT posting.google.com>
>
> from this week's indy "get out" listing:
>
>     Jeff Hart & The Ruins, Dom Casual, The Nevers
>     Kings
>     Sunday, March 7
>
>     Punk rock takes a backseat at the Kings' Sunday matinee series for
> a power-pop funfest. Jeff Hart is consistently occupied with his Brown
> Mountain Lights project, so he doesn't do the Ruins thing very often.
> When he does, though, it's always a wide hook, rock 'n' roll pleasure.
> The Nevers play whip-smart guitar pop with an R.E.M disposition, and
> Dom Casual will touch on every era of American rock music in one
> half-hour set. Have fun, but don't tell Mom you were jammin' on a
> Sunday. The music begins at 5 p.m. (edit: 5:30pm actually- jeff)
> --Grayson Currin
>
> 40 mins by each band.
>
> nevers: 5:30 pm
> dom casual: 6:30pm
> jeff hart & the ruins: 7:30pm
>
> --------------------------------------
> http://www.jeffhartweb.com
> http://www.brownmountainlights.net
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> Message: 43
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 16:26:00 -0500
> From: Six Seven <sixseven AT yesh.com>
> Subject: Re: She, who hates NC bbq!
> To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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>
> > but whats the harm? can you tell me why it's a bad thing? I'm sure
> > there are occasions? Short of threats & creepy stuff?
> Reasonable discussions is always welcomed. What is reasonable is
> variable.
>
> On many blogs there is always the potential to make it a REAL pain in
> the ass for the blog owner. Deleting lots of nasty posts that are off
> topic ever day takes hours. Off topic posts make people who would
> normally post thoughtful ideas go away. Very counter productive  to
> valuable conversation.
>
> I have seen incidents where actual threats of physical harm have been
> made. This is not a random incident to take lightly. Some people will
> take there anger into the physical world AND
> as we have seen here in Chapel Hill the Police will even read your blog
> and pretend to be the FBI to threaten high school students. Fortunately
> our police chief and town council won't tolerate this.
> <http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2003-05-28/triangles.html>
>
> People don't start websites and blogs to be homes to trolls.
> -Brian
>
> > On Mar 4, 2004, at 2:47 PM, Six Seven wrote:
> >
> >> What do you do when folks ignore you and just rant away?
> > -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
> >
>
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> Message: 44
> Date: 4 Mar 2004 14:35:22 -0800
> From: shop AT nc.rr.com (P)
> Subject: Jonas Hellborg at Temple Ball on Sat. 3/6
> To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Message-ID: <140d7262.0403041435.7394dbfb AT posting.google.com>
>
> just announced - legendary jazz fusion bassist Jonas Hellborg at
> Temple Ball this Sat. 3/6 with percussionist V. Selvaganesh - billed
> as "improv bass & kanjira" - Hellborg was the bassist for John
> McLaughlin's re-formed Mahavishnu Orchestra in the 80s - should be
> good...
>
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> Message: 45
> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:57:10 GMT
> From: "Jason M. Sullivan" <jason AT krazykat.nc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: She, who hates NC bbq!
> To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Message-ID: <slrnc4f2i4.ibv.jason AT krazykat.nc.rr.com>
>
> In article <20040304185451.47312.qmail AT web40607.mail.yahoo.com>, James 
> Hepler wrote:
> > She deleted my comment
> >
> > Hep
> >
>
> Proving once again that blogs are a tool of the vain and cowardly.  What
> did you say, to make her react with such vehemence?  Out with it, man.  Was
> it as simple as "Barbecue is a noun", or did it digress in to the
> vagarities of East vs. West (NC, of course) with but a breif digression of
> the confusing merits of Mustard?  What lit such a fire under her?
>
> I read her entry, and it sounds like Charlotte is the perfect place for
> her.  Has anyone posted a link to this Google thread in her comments?  Can
> we deluge her with repostings of Hepler's comment?
>
> --
>    ////           Jason M. SULLIVAN   jsullivan AT nc.rr.com
>   |c-oo                  http://www.jason0x21.org
>    \_-     "That's not music, that's just sound!" - J. David Fries
>
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> Message: 46
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:41:55 -0500
> From: Philip Ayers <p.ayers AT philipayers.com>
> Subject: Re: She, who hates NC bbq!
> To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <490E267E-6E46-11D8-84BC-003065AC335C AT philipayers.com>
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> well that's the idea.. I had, but now since the issue of trolling came
> up I guess I feel pretty childish in wanting to have hundreds of people
> all post exception to her take on NC BBQ.
> ...but what the heck?...?
> On Mar 4, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Jason M. Sullivan wrote:
>
> > In article <20040304185451.47312.qmail AT web40607.mail.yahoo.com>, James
> > Hepler wrote:
> >> She deleted my comment
> >>
> >> Hep
> >>
> >
> > Proving once again that blogs are a tool of the vain and cowardly.
> > What
> > did you say, to make her react with such vehemence?  Out with it, man.
> >  Was
> > it as simple as "Barbecue is a noun", or did it digress in to the
> > vagarities of East vs. West (NC, of course) with but a breif
> > digression of
> > the confusing merits of Mustard?  What lit such a fire under her?
> >
> > I read her entry, and it sounds like Charlotte is the perfect place for
> > her.  Has anyone posted a link to this Google thread in her comments?
> > Can
> > we deluge her with repostings of Hepler's comment?
> >
> > --
> >    ////           Jason M. SULLIVAN   jsullivan AT nc.rr.com
> >   |c-oo                  http://www.jason0x21.org
> >    \_-     "That's not music, that's just sound!" - J. David Fries
> > -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>
>
>
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> Message: 47
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:57:11 -0500
> From: Philip Ayers <p.ayers AT philipayers.com>
> Subject: villagevoice blogging piece(funny)
> To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <6AFE0B0E-6E48-11D8-84BC-003065AC335C AT philipayers.com>
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> just kinda funny.
> http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0409/essay.php
>
>
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> Message: 48
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 06:16:20 -0800 (PST)
> From: James Hepler <jameshepler AT yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: She, who hates NC bbq!
> To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <20040305141620.30416.qmail AT web40611.mail.yahoo.com>
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> I said something along the lines of, "Wow, that's
> really interesting.  Good thing you have a blog."
>
> It was snippy, but it was the best I could do on short
> notice.
>
> Hep
>
> --- "Jason M. Sullivan" <jason AT krazykat.nc.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > In article
> >
> <20040304185451.47312.qmail AT web40607.mail.yahoo.com>,
> > James Hepler wrote:
> > > She deleted my comment
> > >
> > > Hep
> > >
> >
> > Proving once again that blogs are a tool of the vain
> > and cowardly.  What
> > did you say, to make her react with such vehemence?
> > Out with it, man.  Was
> > it as simple as "Barbecue is a noun", or did it
> > digress in to the
> > vagarities of East vs. West (NC, of course) with but
> > a breif digression of
> > the confusing merits of Mustard?  What lit such a
> > fire under her?
> >
> > I read her entry, and it sounds like Charlotte is
> > the perfect place for
> > her.  Has anyone posted a link to this Google thread
> > in her comments?  Can
> > we deluge her with repostings of Hepler's comment?
> >
> > --
> >    ////           Jason M. SULLIVAN
> > jsullivan AT nc.rr.com
> >   |c-oo                  http://www.jason0x21.org
> >    \_-     "That's not music, that's just sound!" -
> > J. David Fries
> > -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors
> > alt.music.chapel-hill --
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>
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> Message: 49
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:30:29 -0500 (EST)
> From: Fred Stutzman <fred AT metalab.unc.edu>
> Subject: Re: Will Chapel-Hill/Carrboro be next?
> To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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> It seems that a number of communities are raising legal challenges to
> marriage-definition laws under state constitution equal rights clauses.
> NC's constitution, Art 1 Sec 1 defines equal rights, though its not really
> a crystal clear definition.
>
> I also heard a little blurb on NPR this morning, saying the ACLU was
> challenging a marriage-definiton law, on what seems to be the less-solid
> ground that a group of citizens found it to be unconstitutional.  The
> citizens rejected the law, and refused to abide by it.
>
> On another note, its interesting to see how San Fransisco was the tipping
> point in all this, it seems like more and more communities each day are
> following suit.  A very interesting social phenomena.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Nathaniel Florin wrote:
>
> >
> > I googled common-law marriages and found this:
> >
> > http://www.itslegal.com/infonet/family/common.html
> >
> > No idea if this is accurate at all, but some of the
> > criteria for a common-law marriage have an air of
> > deception about them. In SC "A common-law marriage is
> > established if a man and woman intend for others to
> > believe they are married." Colorado: "A common-law
> > marriage may be established by proving cohabitation
> > and a reputation of being married." It seems that if
> > you trick people into believing you're married then
> > you actually are.
> >
> > Pennsylvania's is charmingly simple: "A common-law
> > marriage may be established if a man and woman
> > exchange words that indicate that they intend to be
> > married at the present time."
> >
> > Texas' is stupid: "A man and woman who want to
> > establish a common-law marriage must sign a form
> > provided by the county clerk..." Why not just go
> > through the whole thing if you have to go to the
> > county clerk's office?
> >
> > Some of them seem to specify man and woman, and I'd be
> > hard-pressed to imagine any of them would supersede or
> > loophole through a "defense of marriage" law, and I'd
> > think they wouldn't be necessary to establish a test
> > case either. Seems a lot easier to just schedule a
> > trip to Massachusetts some time after May 17th. I'd be
> > happy to serve as a witness or best man and I'd even
> > buy the first round afterwards.
> >
> > Nate
> >
> > --- Anne Gomez <annemgomez AT hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sorry, NC is not a common law marriage state (last I
> > > heard, there were only
> > > 4 - one is SC; can't remember the others).
> >
> > -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
> >
>
> --
> Fred Stutzman
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