Development of the Creative Commons Sampling license (or license option)

[Don Joyce <dj AT webbnet.com>]

Title: Re: [cc-sampling] scope of licenses.

There is a large industry now built up around copyright clearance fees in music, but an even larger industry around copyright clearance in film. All varieties of potential content owners have made this a surprise source of virtually unearned income, and will be loathe to lose it to a license that doesn't care about their income. On the other hand, movie makers themselves would welcome a license which removes all those impediments to re-use in the new job at hand. But whoever is paying to make the movie is probably not going to want a free re-use license on it, even if it gathered its own content that way, though I wonder exactly what harm is foreseen there...except for that unearned income potential.

I think free re-use should apply to film/video arts (potentially collage by nature of its editing) and everything else in all art mediums, known or unknown, (I don't know if software is an art form...) but the more expensive and investment heavy the creative form, the less likely this free re-use license will proliferate, because it's big bucks and hopes for more, not the artist, making the licensing decisions in those corporate, collaborative, big budget formats like film and TV.

DJ 

> I just got back from Barcelona doing a
> presentation on Negativland's work. The folks from 010101001001
> brought it to my attention that there are alls sorts of progressive
> usage lisnces out there , the confusion being there are so many- for
> software, audio, visual, etc.....and they  felt that the variuos
> groups who came up with them were all in thier own worlds and 
> never talked to each other much and that this seemd like a bit of a
> mess to him. According to them, they tended to be very specific to
> each medium and not so universally applicable across
> mediums.
>
> I assume part of the long term hope with
> creative commons licenses is that they become a standard used by
> anyone interested in this stuff, right? Or in CC's view, it it- teh
> mroe the merrier? How much are we trying to write this current license
> so it applies to collage and re-use in any medium, including software
> and films?
>
>
> mark
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At 1:29 PM +0100 6/6/03, David meme wrote:

Hi

I came across your list related to sampling and so forth and thought you might be interested in discovering that the label we run, LOCA RECORDS, releases records under the EFF.org Open Audio license. So we explicitly allow and in fact recommend the sampling of our works.

To our suprise we haven't received much interest in this idea at all and so I thought it might be interesting to see whether other people are involved in similar projects so that we could link up and share knowledge.

The website is http://www.locarecords.com

We are trying to maximise our releases onto vinyl (the last a 12" by ML was released with the text of the Open Audio license incorporated into the artwork design) besides there is something cool about an anti-copyright release on vinyl...

One question was whether people had discovered a 'better' licensing model, some people have recommended the CreativeCommons one, in fact I met Lawrence Lessig at a conference in Oxford, UK a few months ago and he said we should check this out. We drew up our own license the LOCA PUBLIC LICENSE at http://www.locarecords.com/LPL.html but wondered whether it wasn't better to use a standard generic license... Any advice comments etc would be gratefully received.

Cheers

David

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