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  • From: Damian Stewart <damian AT frey.co.nz>
  • To: "Creative Commons Aotearoa (NZ)" <cc-nz AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-nz] Peter Jenner says "DRM is dead"
  • Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:40:34 +1300

Hamish MacEwan wrote:

The idea of a state imposed collection system (AKA taxation), which is
then left to private entities to distribute as they see fit, doesn't
seem the best option for creators.

the model i've heard explained that makes the most sense to me (as a musician) is that some collective that represents musicians, a la APRA, bills ISPs for music downloaded (because it's the ISPs who are profiting from file sharing). the problem is going to be redistribution of the funds, you're right, but i would hesitate to call it 'taxation'.

perhaps you could have some system where the major filesharing applications (Soulseek, Shareaza, Limewire, ..) keep track of this. end-users are encouraged (by telling them that if they use this app the musicians will get paid for tracks shared, with no extra work on their part) to use a filesharing app that sends this information to the aforementioned APRA-like entity which then bills the ISPs in bulk.

this is kind of how radio works (musicians get paid for radio airplay) but since radio is centralised it's much easier to administer and police.

The disintermediation of the
incumbents and connection of producers to consumers (accepting that in
different contexts those roles reverse) directly will test if the
incumbents do anything necessary, or better, something that people
want to pay them for.

hold on. this model completely ignores file sharing. the big hooha where the internet and music is concerned centres around filesharing. the point of file sharing is that the 'consumer' (music lover) doesn't have to connect with the 'producer' (musician) in order to get a hold of the music - their friend tells them that it's rad, and so they copy it on to their harddrive from their friend's. other than producing the music in the first place the musician doesn't get a look-in on this process, and really that's how it should be, i think.

how does the producer-consumer connection idea fit in to this picture? i don't think it does. i'm not a producer of music who gives my music to consumers of music, i'm an experiencer of emotions and i just happen to put the effort in to sharing them through music, with the aim that my music can produce emotions in others. i don't think the producer/consumer model can apply in any meaningful way when the product being consumed is so fundamentally ephemeral.

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