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  • From: Andrew Rens <andrewrens AT gmail.com>
  • To: Development of Creative Commons licenses <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Attribution: please allow anonymous or pseudonymous works
  • Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:16:39 -0400

It seems that you are confusing the possibility that a vendor might ask someone for their name with a formal legal requirement that all contracts require that both parties know the name of the other party.


On 13 August 2012 13:01, heba <mat.r.gl AT gmail.com> wrote:


2012/8/11 Andrew Rens <andrewrens AT gmail.com>


On Aug 10, 2012 11:48 AM, "heba" <mat.r.gl AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> for me it's impossible what you ask.
> A contract is effective only all parties involved are known.

If you are walking down the street and you buy a soft drink from a vendor then you think you must know his name for an effective sale?


in some state there is possible (many traders don not it, true), the traders can you ask your Identity Card or an equivalent paper to control if you are adult.
For a soft drink?  However even if this is true in some states, and I don't believe it without a citation (and translation) of an actual law rather than vague speculation, a law that requires or enables a vendor to request identity does not necessary have any bearing on the validity of a contract.
If someone under age buys alcohol then the vendor who fails to check the identity of the underage person may be guilty of some offence or simply have violated a license to sell alcohol. It does not mean as a matter
 
So this contrat could be not effective.
Or, in Saudi Arabia is not effective and stop.
I don't understand what you've typed here.
 

If you buy something on eBay from someone using a user name then you think that that contract is ineffecctive?


for ebay you can be traceable, always, so even if you use a pseudonym, ebay or the police can arrive you.
Whether the police can subsequently find out your "real" identity has no bearing on the validity of a contract. The contract is valid even if the purchaser and seller only know each other's pseudonyms. You seem to be confusing contract and criminal law.

We can stay here and talk about this, but the real problem is: "is the contract effective in all the world?"
 
No, it isn't.
 You haven't actually specified a real legal problem, you haven't cited actual legislation or case law, and you seem to be confused about the differences between contract, licene and criminal law. 

So if you have a license cc 4.0 with a permission to public with pseudonym and anonymous work, many State of the world will not be able to upgrade the singular license in their state.

Probably only those who confuse criminal law with contract law.

And, a last thing, I don't say that it's impossible write with a pseudonym, but it's impossible Francesco Poli's requested...;)
But I think I spoke a bad english, sorry for this...:)

have a nice evening for all.

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Micaela Gallerini


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