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  • From: "Prodromos Tsiavos" <p.tsiavos AT lse.ac.uk>
  • To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] cc-by-sa and gpl
  • Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:30:15 +0300

thanks very much Paul :)

pRo
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Keller" <pk AT kl.nl>
To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] cc-by-sa and gpl


nope... there were no statements regarding this during the isummit so
i believe that there had been no movement in this field as of lately.
but than i also did not really ask anyone... /paul


On Jul 2, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Prodromos Tsiavos wrote:

Paul, do you by any chance know what is the status of development
of the CC
Compatible Licence list?

many thanks
pRo


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Keller" <pk AT kl.nl>
To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts"
<cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] cc-by-sa and gpl


to provide some background here are two links to an article by Mia
Garlik explaining the rationale behind the changes in version 3.0 of
the CC licenses. the full article can be found here: http://
wiki.creativecommons.org/Version_3

On Jul 2, 2007, at 8:11 PM, Paul Keller wrote:

hmm. there is no point in interoperability (as in being able to
relicense something that was originally under one of the licenses
under the other): the GPL is intended for software, the CC licenses
are for works under copyright that are *not* software. as rob
explained distributing CC-BY-SA and GPL licensed works together is
fine both under the GPL and the CC-BY-SA. the only 'problem' in this
regard is the position of Debian legal. as far as i know they are
still deliberating if they are going to consider CC-BY-SA 3.0 (which
resolved most of the issues they had with the pervious versions)
free
according to the DFSG or not. one would hope that they will.

see: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Version_3#Debian

will be see two 'prosumers' sitting on a bench, one asking "is
that an
'organisation for free licences'?" and the other replying "no!
thats a
free license organsation!... wankers!"

and i won't even get started on asking questions about the
FDL...i've
already made up my mind on that one...

as i said before the GFDL is one of the obvious candidates for
inclusion in the list of CC compatible licenses. if i am not
entirely
mistaken the incompatibility between CC-BY-SA and GFDL is the main
reason for the inclusion of the compatability clause in CC-BY-SA
3.0.
i am not really getting why the GFDL seems to be get you even more
upset when thinking about compatibility. in the case of the GFDL
there is a real need for compatibility as both licenses are intended
for the same type of works, namely non-software works protected by
copyright.

see: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Version_3#BY-
SA_.E2.80.94_Compatibility_Structure_Introduced

/paul

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