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- From: James Grimmelmann <james AT grimmelmann.net>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL
- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:31:56 -0400
Björn Terelius wrote:
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>
> I think I answered this question in a previous post. There are no
> communities because freeware (unlike free software) doesn't depend on
> them. While it is unfortunate that there are no communities, I still
> think it will be next to impossible to create, and in any case, it is
> only the actual freeware developers who suffer from it. The lack of a
> standardized license however makes everybody suffer, because one has the
> choice between:
> A) Not use freeware at all, even when is is superior to existing software
> B) Use it but skip reading the license agreement. In this case you wont
> know if your violating the copyright.
> C) Read a new, often ambiguous, sometimes unnecessarily restrictive
> license for each freeware program one wants to install.
Are there examples of significant legal disputes that have arisen out of
disagreements about the use of freeware? I would think that exactitide
of license doesn't matter so much. Freeware developers don't go around
suing users; users don't go around suing developers; as long as it's
reasonably clear that the developer isn't allowing others to develop
competing derivative works, there aren't developer-developer suits,
either. In that atmosphere of comparatively lower suspicion, imprecise
licensing isn't an urgent problem.
Or perhaps I am wrong, and there are big legal fights over freeware that
better licenses could have solved?
> I am not satisfied with any of the above solutions, so I would prefer a
> standardized license. Since a standard is not likely to emerge
> spontaneously, I think it would be a good idea if a well known license
> like CC could be adapted to software.
The use of CC licenses for software is discouraged (for reasons already
noted). But you can apply a CC license to software. For freeware,
BY-ND seems fairly decent. Anyone can use the free version; commercial
intermediaries can make some money distibuting it conveniently; no one
can make money off of it. IF you take the freeware business model as
given, and IF you're not worried about getting the license exactly
right, BY-ND seems like a perfectly fine license.
James
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Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL
, (continued)
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Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL,
Rob Myers, 04/24/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL,
Björn Terelius, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Joachim Durchholz, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Prodromos Tsiavos, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Björn Terelius, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, drew Roberts, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Björn Terelius, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Joachim Durchholz, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, drew Roberts, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Björn Terelius, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, James Grimmelmann, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Joachim Durchholz, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, James Grimmelmann, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Joachim Durchholz, 04/24/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL,
Björn Terelius, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, drew Roberts, 04/24/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL,
Rob Myers, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] One use of nc and nd: ad-hoc harmonisation of fair use, rob, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] One use of nc and nd: ad-hoc harmonisation of fair use, Javier Candeira, 04/25/2007
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