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- From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL
- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:38:41 -0400
On Tuesday 24 April 2007 02:49 am, Björn Terelius wrote:
> I agree with Joachim Durchholz, it would be great if the Creative
> Commons made adaptations for software. I can't understand why some of
> you guys dislike the idea so much.
Possibly there are some of us who would be happy to see the day when only BY
and BY-SA remain as viable CC licenses, the others having faded away into
obscurity due to non-use.
> After all, why should it be possible
> for an artist to release their creations as ND but not possible for a
> programmer based on some loosely defined "ethical principle" of open
> source.
Are you calling for CC to drop ND? ~;-) sorry, just a joke.
> The Creative Commons are not the same as FSF and does not have
> to share the FSFs opinions. I think that the programmer should have the
> freedom to choose the license he sees fit for his project, even if it
> isn't open source. That a ND licence for software would "cause needless
> division, friction and incompatibility" is simply not true. The
> incompatibility already exists. Just search the net for "freeware" and
> you will find thousands of gratis but non-free programs.
> www.freewarehome.com alone claim to have more than 4500 programs for
> download, each probably with its own license.
Even though ND isn't meant for software, if you are determined to go
non-Free,
would ND not work for software if you intend ND?
>
> Regards
> Bjorn Terelius
all the best,
drew
>
> Erik Moeller skrev:
> > On 4/23/07, Joachim Durchholz <jo AT durchholz.org> wrote:
> >> However, they aren't applicable to all situations. The GPL is
> >> Attribution/Derivative/Share-Alike, the LGPL is Attribution/Derivative.
> >> There's no option for Noncommercial or No-Derivative.
> >>
> >> I think cc.org could help here.
> >
> > If by "help" you mean "cause needless division, friction and
> > incompatibility", then yes ;-). Even if one buys into the notion that
> > there are different "sharing cultures" around culture as a whole, the
> > open source/free software movement has clearly converged on a high
> > standard of freedom. The success stories of Apache, Linux, MySQL, and
> > so on would have been impossible without commercial use rights. If you
> > want to create a new fringe movement, I don't think it is the role of
> > CC to support that.
>
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Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL
, (continued)
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Björn Terelius, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, James Grimmelmann, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Joachim Durchholz, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, James Grimmelmann, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Joachim Durchholz, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, drew Roberts, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] One use of nc and nd: ad-hoc harmonisation of fair use, rob, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] One use of nc and nd: ad-hoc harmonisation of fair use, Javier Candeira, 04/25/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL,
Joachim Durchholz, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Björn Terelius, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Joachim Durchholz, 04/24/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL, Greg London, 04/24/2007
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