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- From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports
- Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 09:03:01 -0400
On Sunday 08 October 2006 04:28 am, Henri Sivonen wrote:
> On Oct 8, 2006, at 08:24, jonathon wrote:
> > Since I expect the most significant dispute to be over the meaning of
> > "Non Commercial",
>
> FWIW, I think NC is a major bug in CC. First, I think it is
> irresponsible to offer a license whose meaning is unclear even to the
> CC folks themselves. Second, CC creates a brand image that CC equals
> Free Culture which is even stated to be inspired by Free Software,
> but NC is not Free as in Free Software. (CC also talks about Open
> Music when referring to Magnatune, but Magnatune's music is not Open
> as in Open Source.)
This "mislableing" problem is cropping up all the time.
>
> Now the Free as in Free Software type of Free Culture loses works to
> NC, because having NC available makes authors choose it by knee-jerk
> reaction. If NC wasn't available, to associate oneself with the brand
> of Free Culture, one would actually have to make the works Free as in
> Free Software.
As big a bug as NC is, I think ND is a bigger one. Exactly what, from a
creative comons point of view, can one do with an ND work that you can't do
with an all rights reserved work. (I am not saying that I don't prefer ND
works or even NC-ND works to "ARR" works, just asking what commons benefit
they give?)
Would CC be willing to consider a "Free CC" logo / brand / subsection that
those of us concerned with "Free Culture" ... can associate under and
promote? Do others concerned with "Free" think this is wise or would be
useful?
> Henri Sivonen
all the best,
drew
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Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports
, (continued)
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, Andres Guadamuz, 10/09/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, drew Roberts, 10/09/2006
- [cc-licenses] Am I a contract or not - that is the question...?, Peter Brink, 10/09/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Am I a contract or not - that is the question...?, Andres Guadamuz, 10/09/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Am I a contract or not - that is the question...?, Peter Brink, 10/09/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports,
drew Roberts, 10/07/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports,
jonathon, 10/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, Henri Sivonen, 10/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, drew Roberts, 10/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, Rob Myers, 10/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, drew Roberts, 10/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, Terry Hancock, 10/08/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts, 10/09/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, drew Roberts, 10/09/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, Rob Myers, 10/09/2006
- [cc-licenses] More on NC (was: Re: New Generic and ports), Henri Sivonen, 10/09/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] More on NC (was: Re: New Generic and ports), drew Roberts, 10/09/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports, Jonathon Blake, 10/10/2006
- [cc-licenses] Yet more on NC (was: Re: New Generic and ports), Henri Sivonen, 10/10/2006
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Re: [cc-licenses] New Generic and ports,
jonathon, 10/08/2006
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