Development of Creative Commons licenses

[drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>]

On Friday 29 September 2006 09:54 am, rob AT robmyers.org wrote:
> Quoting drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>:
> > On Friday 29 September 2006 06:58 am, rob AT robmyers.org wrote:
> >> Quoting Terry Hancock <hancock AT anansispaceworks.com>:
> >> > I think the fact that GPLv3 would be as prohibitive as the proposed
> >> > CC-By-SA-3 language is interesting, and pretty important from Debian's
> >> > PoV.
> >>
> >> I do not beliebve that this is the case. GPL-3 allows you to use or
> >> write DRM. You just cannot prevent people removing it or creating
> >> replacements.
> >>
> >> One solution for CC and Debian, based on the Scottish license language
> >> that MJ Ray has mentioned, would be for CC to allow only ineffective DRM
> >> to be applied.
> >> This would be DRM where blanket permission to circumvent has been given
> >> *by the
> >> DRM vendor*, as is included in the GPL-3.
> >
> > Could this not also be accomplished by blanket permission to apply tied
> > with parallel distribution?
>
> I do not believe so. You do not have an equivalent permission to remove
> the DRM,
> and availability of the non-DRM work is not guaranteed. It will look OK at
> the point of initial distribution, but it will create increasing problems
> for redistributors and remixers.

From your answer, I am not sure you got what I was saying.

In Greg's bad case, Dave get's a monopoly by being the only one who can apply 
the DRM and thus becomse the sole provider. In my example, anyone can apply 
the DRM for the platform. If they do, they must also provide parallel, 
non-DRM version. Anyone else can then get the non-DRM version, make whatever 
changes they want, and then re-apply the DRM to allow their modded version to 
play on the player.
>
> For all the game and media systems we have been discussing (and I
> apologise for
> my relapse about the iPod a while back), DRM is added by Greg's single
> vendor so permission to add DRM does not really empower end users.

Wait, if the license forbids applying DRM if all are not allowed to apply it, 
Greg's single vendor can't apply it unlees he allows every and anyone to 
apply it.

Is that any more clear?
>
> - Rob.

all the best,

drew
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