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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
- From: Evan Prodromou <evan AT prodromou.name>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:26:35 -0400
On Wed, 2006-27-09 at 18:08 -0400, drew Roberts wrote:
Well, in a parallel distribution scenario, at least we'd be able to listen to CC-licensed music on those players. With the current anti-DRM clause, we wouldn't be able to.> In a parallel distribution scenario, that effect is negated. If an > unencumbered version is made available, then there is no "imposition" of > anything. The other people still have the freedom to share, modify, and > experiment. And when all the players only play DRM files? What then?
Do you really think that the fortunes of DRM-required systems are going to rise and fall depending on the availability of CC-licensed works on those platforms? The evidence is pretty strongly against that. The distribution of DRM-encumbered works is far outstripping the distribution of CC works.
DRM vendors aren't crying because CC works can't be ported to their systems. Apple doesn't give a flying fox if they can't sell CC music in the iTunes store. The only value in keeping CC-licensed works off of DRM-required systems is to make an empty philosophical statement that's being largely ignored by decision-makers, at the expense of people on our side who could be winning converts by going into "DRM land" and sharing music and software with them. It is shooting ourselves in the foot.
It overloads an ugly, restrictive system in order to generously share art, music, and entertainment with our neighbours. That is a subversion of the selfish, greedy core values of DRM systems.> Parallel distribution is not an acceptance of the DRM view of the world. > It's a _subversion_ of it. This I don't buy. It is an acceptance in my view. Now, if, pragmatically, it is a worthwhile acceptance for the short term to obtain a better goal in the long term is a different matter.
~Evan
-- Evan Prodromou -- http://evan.prodromou.name/ "By God! I will accept nothing which all cannot have their counterpart of on the same terms." -- Walt Whitman, "Song of Myself" |
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Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses
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- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/29/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, rob, 09/29/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/29/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Terry Hancock, 09/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Rob Myers, 09/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Mia Garlick, 09/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Evan Prodromou, 09/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Greg London, 09/30/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, Evan Prodromou, 09/27/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses, drew Roberts, 09/27/2006
- Re: [cc-licenses] Subject: Re: Version 3.0 - List Discussion Respons$Cc: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org, MJ Ray, 09/28/2006
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