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  • From: Nova Christopher <n23ova AT yahoo.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] sampling + 1.0 and remix competition, with prize for winner
  • Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 22:42:28 -0700 (PDT)

But "my label" is not a business or corporation.
There is no money being made. And no commercial
advantage to it. I don't license the music like
Warner Brothers. I don't license it at all. It is
all basically "share and share alike." I don't even
have a paypal "donate" button on my site =)

So I'm back to not worrying about it...





--- drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday 05 July 2006 06:51 pm, Nova Christopher
> wrote:
> > I'm not sure if I need to be concerned with
> private
> > monetary compensation, if that's what it is. And
> it
> > would seem that's what it is, especially since my
> > label is completely independent and makes no money
> at
> > all (nor is it designed to).
>
> Nope, it is more complicated than that. If your
> label is doing this and not
> you, and you label is a business or a corporation,
> different rules apply...
>
> "You may not exercise any of the rights granted to
> You in the paragraph
> immediately above in any manner that is primarily
> intended for or directed
> toward commercial advantage"
>
> which to me sounds like the loosy goosy language od
> non-commercial which I
> would not want to touch with a ten foot pole.
>
> That said, both of those options relate to
> "Noncommercial sharing of verbatim
> copies permitted." This is point d.
>
> Points a, b, and c seem to relate more to your
> stated goal.
>
> So, if the entrants make bona-fide derivatives in
> keeping with the terms and
> you have them use a BY or BY-SA license as a part of
> the contest
> requirements, then it would be OK to make money from
> it.
>
> Point c might cause you some grief though.
>
> Then too, can you legally license a derivative
> containing sampling plus
> material under a BY or BY-SA license? Perhaps not.
> Does anyone have any
> thoughts on this? What did the Creative Commons
> license drafters intend in
> this regard?
> >
> > If anything, I'm losing money for the sake of free
> > music and supporting free sampling and remixing.
> >
> > Thanks for your comments!
>
> all the best,
>
> drew
> (da idea man)
> >
> > --- drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com> wrote:
> > > You host the competition. You point to the
> samples
> > > on the ccMixter site.
> > >
> > > Entrants get their samples from the ccMixter
> site
> > > and make their remixes. You
> > > can host the remixes at your site (does anyone
> > > disagree?) Or tell the
> > > entrants to put them back up on ccMixter (can
> anyone
> > > see why they couldn't?)
> > >
> > > You judge and give the prize.
> > >
> > > Will that plan work for you?
> > >
> > > Why do you need to be concerned with "private
> > > monetary compensation?"
> >
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