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  • From: "Jonathon Blake" <jonathon.blake AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts" <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Creative Commons licenses cause a problem
  • Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:00:22 +0000

Nancy wrote:

> Since you indicate that you can't use "ARR" works under fair use then I
would expect
> you also not to be able to use most CC works under fair use as well, but
only under
> licensed use.

This is really unclear, and any help you could give is welcome.

In plain English:

1: Standard "All Rights Reserved"
Contact the creator, and negotiate with them to use the material.

2: Creative Commons "Non Commercial"
Contact the creator, and negotiate with them to use the material.

3: Creative Commons "No Derivatives"
Contact the creator, and negotiate with them to use the material.

4: Creative Commons "Share Alike"
Use the material, _and_ acknowledge the source in the "credits" section.

5: Creative Commons "Public Domain"
Use the material. Attribution is a courtesy.
[The Odds are that you will not find any material created since the
DCMA that is legally "public domain".]

are considering that maybe, we could use the "By/Attribution/Non-Commercial"
stuff in the ANC, especially if we eliminate a chapter or

Eliminating a chapter won't protect you from an NC suit. Especially
if the work is the one that has a commercial version that has a MSRP
of US$10 000.

Do the legal, honest, and ethical thing, and adhere to the licence.
Just because some material does not use a licence you can use, is not
an issue for the creator of the material. Indeed, that might be the
very reason that they chose the licence.

is any of this in violation of the default CC license?

There is _NO_ default CC licence.

So, what do you think--can we use CC-default -licensed texts or not?

Since there is no default CC licence, your question is meaningless.

Big question: where is "here" and what are the "relevant places"?

"Here" is places where people who create works are found.

I _think_ the op meant put something that was very visible on your
website, soliciting contributions.

I believe that if many authors knew why we want their texts for, and
how we use them, they would be happy to contribute, but we have no
idea where to go to solicit contributions. We have tried to advertise
as contributing to the "definitive record of American English at the
turn of the millennium", but we don't know where or to whom this
should be advertised.

If you really want to know how English is written, then get somebody
to write usenet bot that sends a request to the author of every
article on usenet, asking for permission to use their message. [Set
up a dedicated machine as the news server/requestbot ]

Also write a blogbot that wanders thru blogspace, emailing the author
of the blogs, for permission to use the text, and copy the text,
_after_ permission to do so have been granted.

[And don't be surprised if more than a couple of people in blogspace
write a note about your request.]

xan

jonathon
--
Ethical conduct is a vice.
Corrupt conduct is a virtue.

Motto of Nacarima.




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