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[Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>]

Hi All,

After much delay, a draft of the English booklet can be found at
http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/aatc3.pdf
One image is still missing and we are co-ordinating with CC Australia.

I have inserted a page to introduce to CCHK and added the CCHK logo in
prominent places. Please comment.

Regards,

Haggen

2009/6/11 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
> Hi All,
>
> CC Australia has made the raw files for the booklet available for
> reuse on their web site.
> http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons
>
> I have some ideas on how to alter part of the booklet and I have
> drafted an introduction for CCHK. Unfortunately, the admin office will
> be involved in organising the "Conference on Digital Convergence at
> The University of Hong Kong from June 12-13" and Matthew will be on
> leave on Monday. I will let everyone know when the CCHK version is
> ready.
>
> Regards,
>
> Haggen
>
> 2009/6/3 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>> Alexander,
>>
>> You are a good project manager! I am not sure if I can answer all of
>> them but here are some of the answers.
>>
>> 2009/6/3 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
>>> Hi all and Haggen,
>>>
>>>   The Australian booklet is fine but as my view, the style maybe not be 
>>> very
>>> attractive to me. Will Matthew re-design it and if it is possible or
>>> allowable to do so coz it is come from Creative Commons Australian? And, 
>>> is
>>> it a necessary to print a Australian booklet with 60 page full version? I
>>> mean, to the environment and I guess, I guess the booklet should give a
>>> short and clear and the main idea to the audience about Creative Commons 
>>> and
>>> the Case Studies and if they are really interested in it, they could visit
>>> CCHK website to download a full version and get more further information.
>>
>> I have a discussion with Matthew just before and we will do some
>> adjustment. I am also asking the Creative Commons Australia for the
>> raw files.  In terms of re-design, I am not sure if Matthew can afford
>> the time. See if we can come to a compromise.
>>
>>>   In addition,
>>>
>>> 1) How is the RTHK CC survey running? I mean the analysis of the survey.
>>> Still waiting the PR department to finish the questionnaire analysis?
>>
>> It is up to RTHK to tell us the update.
>>
>>> 2) How is the LS training for teachers mentioned before?
>>
>> I attended the "Liberal Studies Assessment and Media" event on 23th
>> May (http://www.isoc-hk.org/media-literacy/web.html) and there was a
>> good discussion on copyright. I also had the chance to introduce CC to
>> the audience and they were also very interested. I am co-ordinating
>> with  one of the co-organiser, Hong Kong Media Education Resources
>> Web, to see if we can organise another talk on copyright ASAP.
>>
>>> and media attention also.
>>
>> The original plan was to generate media attention so that there will
>> be more positive result for the survey. When I talked to our inhouse
>> media specialist, she pointed out that CC may not be an issue with
>> urgency. The articles submitted may not be printed on time before the
>> survey ended.
>>
>> On the other hand, I am building a media list so that we can be better
>> prepared next time.
>>
>>> 3) And will there are any plan to organize a talk in secondary school or
>>> university to the students in the future?
>>
>> No yet. But I plan to deliver some of the booklets in person and hear
>> from friends from different University on how we can better serve and
>> support them.
>>
>>> 4) At last but not the least, as Oiwan mentioned, how is the volunteer 
>>> register system and legco monitor?
>>
>> Yes I did miss out on the volunteer register system. I will follow up.
>>
>> I plan to organise the legco watch after 64, as most who care about
>> politics are probably occupied by this issue right now.
>>
>>> There are a lot of questions and most of them are pointed out before but I
>>> can't see any more discussion on it? Feel free to answer my trouble =)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alexander
>>> ________________________________
>>> Haggen,
>>>
>>> Your suggestion works fine. That matches my thought perfectly.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> SC
>>>
>>>
>>> Haggen So wrote:
>>>
>>> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro*
>>> Hi SC,
>>>
>>> The plan is to distribution both Chinese and English booklets to
>>> interested departments and libraries (if possible) in higher
>>> institutions so that academics and students can easily access these
>>> materials.
>>>
>>> The problem with the first one is that some information is outdated as
>>> it was produced in late 2006. To improve it, we may need co-ordination
>>> and updated information from CC International, which will further
>>> delay the process. Therefore the approach I adopted before was to use
>>> ready-made materials.
>>>
>>> To partly remedy the short-comings of the booklet "Asia and the
>>> Commons Case Studies 2008", I will include a two-sided English flyer
>>> printed during the Launch
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
>>>
>>> Please comment.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Haggen
>>>
>>> 2009/6/3 sc AT itvoice.hk <sc AT itvoice.hk>:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Who are the audience of the publication and what is the purpose of the
>>> publication?
>>>
>>> "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" is more an entry level 
>>> publication.
>>> The Australian booklet is a more advanced level publication and it is a
>>> better one.
>>>
>>> Can we afford to have a pamphlet that is a simplified version of the
>>> first one, and then a full printed version of the Australian booklet?
>>>
>>> SC
>>>
>>> Haggen So wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro*
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> After searching promotion materials from English speaking
>>> jurisdictions: Australia, Canada, UK, South Africa and India, I found
>>> that the booklet "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" may be
>>> suitable. http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons  It is a
>>> full-colour 60-page booklet with 16 case studies of CC projects in
>>> Asia and beyond. The shortcomings of this booklet is that there is no
>>> beginner level introduction of CC and the reader is assumed to have
>>> some former understanding. Also, we may not be able to print many
>>> copies of this booklet.
>>>
>>> I would like to get some feedback from the community these two
>>> promotion materials: "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" and
>>> former suggestion, "Encouraging the ecology of creativity from CCi
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>
>>> Haggen
>>>
>>> 2009/5/21 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> If there is no further opinion, I will proceed with the logistics for
>>> English promotion materials.
>>>
>>> Current progress:
>>> I discovered that "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" was produced
>>> in 2006 (the first page said 2007, but I was told it was done the year
>>> before)
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>>> I am in the process of contacting CCi and finding out if there is any
>>> more updated material with similar content.
>>>
>>> I will be on leave next week from 25-29 May. It is just a "holiday
>>> destroying" exercise and I will still in Hong Kong. I will answer
>>> emails and if it is really urgent, find my office number from the CCHK
>>> official web site and one of my colleagues will give you my mobile.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Haggen
>>>
>>> 2009/5/19 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> >From my experience as a student at UST and expat contacts who are
>>> professors
>>> or students at other universities in HK, I would say that English versions
>>> are also important.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Griff
>>>
>>> Griffith W. Jones
>>> insight AT gjones.com
>>> www.gjones.com
>>> 852-9738-1170
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Haggen So wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Just an update.
>>>
>>> I finally submitted the conference paper yesterday and I can do more
>>> work on this.
>>>
>>> I have done a stocktake and there areabout 3800 copies of Chinese CC
>>> Education Kit
>>>
>>> http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cc-kit_081006_final.pdf
>>> We can afford to give 200-300 copies to each distribution point.
>>>
>>> I am also wondering if we need to distribute English material as well,
>>> as stakeholders in Universities can be expatriates. Currently the
>>> standard English material is a two-sided Flyer. There are about 230 of
>>> them.
>>>
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
>>> It looks quite unsubstantial compared with the Education Kit. We need
>>> a reprint if we are going to distribute them.
>>>
>>> I sourced English materials on
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Documentation and found "Encouraging
>>> the ecology of creativity"
>>>
>>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>>> A 13 page a-bit-smaller-than-A4 introductory material on the general
>>> principles of CC and renowned international projects. This can give a
>>> complementary view to the Education Kit which is very local.
>>>
>>> I just want to collect opinion on whether 200-300 copies is a good
>>> number and whether English material will be important.
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>
>>> Haggen
>>>
>>> 2009/5/14 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> It is a great respond. I am still working on my paper but most of it
>>> is written now. Let me give some feedbacks.
>>>
>>> 2009/5/13 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure if CCHK should do the same case to the Hong Kong institute
>>> of
>>> Vocational Education as in the University.
>>>
>>> Alexander
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, we can try that as well. Do you have any contacts?
>>>
>>> 2009/5/13 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> What about HKUST?
>>>
>>> Griff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone please suggest. I do have a distant contact. I will try, but
>>> don't know if if will work.
>>>
>>> Media email list
>>> I keep a collection of Hong Kong News articles published about CC from
>>> pre-launch to Apr 09 (e.g. http://cchk.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+6 ) I
>>> will work on that and of course, I will ask Velentina, our inhouse
>>> veteran, for help.
>>>
>>> I am also sourcing some English materials from
>>> http://creativecommons.org/about/downloads/ and other place for
>>> non-Chinese audience.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Haggen
>>>
>>>
>>>
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