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[Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>]

Alexander,

You are a good project manager! I am not sure if I can answer all of
them but here are some of the answers.

2009/6/3 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
> Hi all and Haggen,
>
>   The Australian booklet is fine but as my view, the style maybe not be very
> attractive to me. Will Matthew re-design it and if it is possible or
> allowable to do so coz it is come from Creative Commons Australian? And, is
> it a necessary to print a Australian booklet with 60 page full version? I
> mean, to the environment and I guess, I guess the booklet should give a
> short and clear and the main idea to the audience about Creative Commons and
> the Case Studies and if they are really interested in it, they could visit
> CCHK website to download a full version and get more further information.

I have a discussion with Matthew just before and we will do some
adjustment. I am also asking the Creative Commons Australia for the
raw files.  In terms of re-design, I am not sure if Matthew can afford
the time. See if we can come to a compromise.

>   In addition,
>
> 1) How is the RTHK CC survey running? I mean the analysis of the survey.
> Still waiting the PR department to finish the questionnaire analysis?

It is up to RTHK to tell us the update.

> 2) How is the LS training for teachers mentioned before?

I attended the "Liberal Studies Assessment and Media" event on 23th
May (http://www.isoc-hk.org/media-literacy/web.html) and there was a
good discussion on copyright. I also had the chance to introduce CC to
the audience and they were also very interested. I am co-ordinating
with  one of the co-organiser, Hong Kong Media Education Resources
Web, to see if we can organise another talk on copyright ASAP.

> and media attention also.

The original plan was to generate media attention so that there will
be more positive result for the survey. When I talked to our inhouse
media specialist, she pointed out that CC may not be an issue with
urgency. The articles submitted may not be printed on time before the
survey ended.

On the other hand, I am building a media list so that we can be better
prepared next time.

> 3) And will there are any plan to organize a talk in secondary school or
> university to the students in the future?

No yet. But I plan to deliver some of the booklets in person and hear
from friends from different University on how we can better serve and
support them.

> 4) At last but not the least, as Oiwan mentioned, how is the volunteer 
> register system and legco monitor?

Yes I did miss out on the volunteer register system. I will follow up.

I plan to organise the legco watch after 64, as most who care about
politics are probably occupied by this issue right now.

> There are a lot of questions and most of them are pointed out before but I
> can't see any more discussion on it? Feel free to answer my trouble =)
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
> ________________________________
> Haggen,
>
> Your suggestion works fine. That matches my thought perfectly.
>
> Regards,
> SC
>
>
> Haggen So wrote:
>
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> Hi SC,
>
> The plan is to distribution both Chinese and English booklets to
> interested departments and libraries (if possible) in higher
> institutions so that academics and students can easily access these
> materials.
>
> The problem with the first one is that some information is outdated as
> it was produced in late 2006. To improve it, we may need co-ordination
> and updated information from CC International, which will further
> delay the process. Therefore the approach I adopted before was to use
> ready-made materials.
>
> To partly remedy the short-comings of the booklet "Asia and the
> Commons Case Studies 2008", I will include a two-sided English flyer
> printed during the Launch
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
>
> Please comment.
>
> Regards,
>
> Haggen
>
> 2009/6/3 sc AT itvoice.hk <sc AT itvoice.hk>:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Who are the audience of the publication and what is the purpose of the
> publication?
>
> "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" is more an entry level publication.
> The Australian booklet is a more advanced level publication and it is a
> better one.
>
> Can we afford to have a pamphlet that is a simplified version of the
> first one, and then a full printed version of the Australian booklet?
>
> SC
>
> Haggen So wrote:
>
>
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> Hi All,
>
> After searching promotion materials from English speaking
> jurisdictions: Australia, Canada, UK, South Africa and India, I found
> that the booklet "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" may be
> suitable. http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons  It is a
> full-colour 60-page booklet with 16 case studies of CC projects in
> Asia and beyond. The shortcomings of this booklet is that there is no
> beginner level introduction of CC and the reader is assumed to have
> some former understanding. Also, we may not be able to print many
> copies of this booklet.
>
> I would like to get some feedback from the community these two
> promotion materials: "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" and
> former suggestion, "Encouraging the ecology of creativity from CCi
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Haggen
>
> 2009/5/21 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> If there is no further opinion, I will proceed with the logistics for
> English promotion materials.
>
> Current progress:
> I discovered that "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" was produced
> in 2006 (the first page said 2007, but I was told it was done the year
> before)
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
> I am in the process of contacting CCi and finding out if there is any
> more updated material with similar content.
>
> I will be on leave next week from 25-29 May. It is just a "holiday
> destroying" exercise and I will still in Hong Kong. I will answer
> emails and if it is really urgent, find my office number from the CCHK
> official web site and one of my colleagues will give you my mobile.
>
> Regards,
>
> Haggen
>
> 2009/5/19 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
>
>
>
> All,
>
> >From my experience as a student at UST and expat contacts who are
> professors
> or students at other universities in HK, I would say that English versions
> are also important.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Griff
>
> Griffith W. Jones
> insight AT gjones.com
> www.gjones.com
> 852-9738-1170
>
>
>
> Haggen So wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just an update.
>
> I finally submitted the conference paper yesterday and I can do more
> work on this.
>
> I have done a stocktake and there areabout 3800 copies of Chinese CC
> Education Kit
>
> http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cc-kit_081006_final.pdf
> We can afford to give 200-300 copies to each distribution point.
>
> I am also wondering if we need to distribute English material as well,
> as stakeholders in Universities can be expatriates. Currently the
> standard English material is a two-sided Flyer. There are about 230 of
> them.
>
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
> It looks quite unsubstantial compared with the Education Kit. We need
> a reprint if we are going to distribute them.
>
> I sourced English materials on
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Documentation and found "Encouraging
> the ecology of creativity"
>
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
> A 13 page a-bit-smaller-than-A4 introductory material on the general
> principles of CC and renowned international projects. This can give a
> complementary view to the Education Kit which is very local.
>
> I just want to collect opinion on whether 200-300 copies is a good
> number and whether English material will be important.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Haggen
>
> 2009/5/14 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> It is a great respond. I am still working on my paper but most of it
> is written now. Let me give some feedbacks.
>
> 2009/5/13 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
>
>
>
>
> I am not sure if CCHK should do the same case to the Hong Kong institute
> of
> Vocational Education as in the University.
>
> Alexander
>
>
>
>
> Yes, we can try that as well. Do you have any contacts?
>
> 2009/5/13 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> What about HKUST?
>
> Griff
>
>
>
>
> Everyone please suggest. I do have a distant contact. I will try, but
> don't know if if will work.
>
> Media email list
> I keep a collection of Hong Kong News articles published about CC from
> pre-launch to Apr 09 (e.g. http://cchk.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+6 ) I
> will work on that and of course, I will ask Velentina, our inhouse
> veteran, for help.
>
> I am also sourcing some English materials from
> http://creativecommons.org/about/downloads/ and other place for
> non-Chinese audience.
>
> Regards,
>
> Haggen
>
>
>
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