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[Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>]

Dear Alan,

Your comment is useful. We will try to contact CreateHK.

Regards,

Haggen

2009/6/25 Alan Lung <alanlung AT abcmconsulting.com>:
> My speculation is the the Secretary General of the Film Development Council
> (also head of the Film Services Unit within CreateHK) may not have the
> mandate to touch a policy area you mentioned. I believe CC should register
> interest with Alan Siu, Acting Head of CreateHK.
> Regards,
> ALAN
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Qiu" <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>
> To: "Alan Lung" <alanlung AT abcmconsulting.com>
> Cc: "Haggen So" <haggenso AT gmail.com>; "cc-hk" <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] HK Film Archive
>
>
> Hi Alan, and everyone --
>
> Thanks for sharing re: CreateHK. For your background knowledge, we did
> NOT lobby HK Film Archive. It was them who approached us first a few
> months ago. As you can see from Haggen's minutes, they've been quite
> frustrated by the existing copyright system, which is why they want to
> talk to us. It's great that they're considering CC as one of the
> potential solutions. Our meeting the other day was simply to hear from
> them and provide as much info as possible about CCHK.
>
> The meeting was also a good learning experience for us, while being
> instrumental in generating some new ideas such as the one re: Film
> Development Fund (FDF). We in fact want to do more in this area,
> relying on Haggen as the main node of the network as usual. And I'll
> draft a follow-up email for this for Pindar and everyone who are
> interested. The idea is to apply for funding from FDF to build a CC
> platform for short films, at least that's the basic idea. It'll need
> much more in-depth discussion and strategizing, probably off this
> mailing list that involves everyone. But anyone interested please
> email me.
>
> Cheers,
> jack
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Alan Lung<alanlung AT abcmconsulting.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> It seems to me that CC is lobbying at the wrong level. As an operating
>> unit
>> of LCSD, Hong Kong Film Archive is unlikely to be able to drive things
>> forward. CreateHK(a newly created operating unit of CEDB's Communications
>> &
>> Technology Branch) is more likely the policy unit that will be in a
>> position
>> to move forward CC's wishes. CreateHK is also in charge of the Film
>> Development Fund.
>> www.CreateHK.gov.hk
>>
>> Regards,
>> ALAN
>>
>> Alan Lung
>> Director & General Manager
>> Asia Pacific Intellectual Capital Centre
>> www.apicc.asia
>> Tel: +852 2503-1383
>> Fax: +852 2503-3645
>> e-mail: alanlung AT apicc.asia
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haggen So" <haggenso AT gmail.com>
>> To: "Jack Qiu" <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>
>> Cc: "cc-hk" <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] HK Film Archive
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The meeting was re-schedule to last Tues and the minutes is attached
>> below:
>>
>> Date / Time: 23 May (Tue), 11:10 am - 1:15pm
>> Location: Shum Wai Yau Reading Room
>> Attendants: Richie Lam, Jack Qiu, Jeromy Yu, Johnny Cheung, Haggen So
>> Minutes: taken by Haggen
>>
>> 1. Introduction of Creative Commons by Haggen and Jack including
>> different business models using NC and lower quality formats. The
>> group also exchanged view on the balance of copyright protection.
>> 2. Richie explained two difficulties that the film archive faced –
>> orphan films (where the copyright holder could not be found) and no
>> archive ordinance in HK. Haggen would direct his concerns to Yahong Li
>> and Alice Lee for professional advice.
>> 3. CCHK could consider the “Film Development Fund”. The Film Archive,
>> on the other hand, as a service provided by the Leisure and Cultural
>> Services Department, would not participate. CCHK could consider
>> collaboration with the film makers of the Independent Short Film and
>> Video Awards (IFVA). Ms. Teresa Kwong of the Hong Kong Arts Centre
>> could be contacted for the IFVA details.
>> 4. HK Film Archive could conduct a survey among both film copyright
>> owners and potential users of these archives regarding the adoption of
>> CC. The survey results could be then used to serve and structure
>> future actions. Haggen would forward a softcopy of the RTHK
>> questionnaire to Richie for his reference.
>> 5. A way to motivate copyright owners ("parents" of orphan films) to
>> participate. First, selected a small number of prominent old/classic
>> films with known copyright owners and obtained their approval. Second,
>> digitized them and even gave them some new features using digital
>> technology (now many of these old films are not digitized yet).
>> Finally, these films could then be promoted on a centralized online
>> platform using CC, which ideally would attract the "parents" of
>> orphaned films to come out and release their classic works through CC,
>> for the additional features or simply for the digitization of the
>> films themselves.
>> 6. Jeromy Yu and Johnny Cheung presented the photo donation from
>> German Federal Archive to Wikimedia and how HK Film Archive and
>> Wikipedia could have common interests.
>> 7. Attendants would keep in contact and seek further opportunities for
>> collaboration. In putting any proposal onwards, copyright matters and
>> concerns should be well considered.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Haggen
>>
>> 2009/6/8 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu AT gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Forgot to change the subject line
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jack Qiu<jacklqiu AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> This Wed, June 10, I'll have lunch with Richie Lam, who directs the
>>>> Hong Kong Film Archive, at University Guesthouse of CUHK. We'll start
>>>> at 12:30 and talk about how HK Film Archive may adopt CC. We've been
>>>> talking about having lunch together for quite a while and finally,
>>>> with the help of my colleague Donna Chu, it'll happen this week.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone interested in joining us? If so, just drop me a line. Even if
>>>> you're not coming, please still feel free to share your thoughts and
>>>> suggestions with me. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> BTW, how's the progress with RTHK's CC initiative?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jack Linchuan Qiu, Ph.D.
>>>>
>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>> School of Journalism and Communication,
>>>> The Chinese University of Hong Kong
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack Linchuan Qiu, Ph.D.
>>>
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> School of Journalism and Communication,
>>> The Chinese University of Hong Kong
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> --
> Jack Linchuan Qiu, Ph.D.
>
> Assistant Professor
> School of Journalism and Communication,
> The Chinese University of Hong Kong
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