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["Li Yahong" <yali AT hku.hk>]

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haggen So" <haggenso AT gmail.com>
To: "cc-hk" <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Liberal Studies and CC


> Hi All,
>
> After much delay, a draft of the English booklet can be found at
> http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/aatc3.pdf
> One image is still missing and we are co-ordinating with CC Australia.
>
> I have inserted a page to introduce to CCHK and added the CCHK logo in
> prominent places. Please comment.
>
> Regards,
>
> Haggen
>
> 2009/6/11 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > CC Australia has made the raw files for the booklet available for
> > reuse on their web site.
> > http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons
> >
> > I have some ideas on how to alter part of the booklet and I have
> > drafted an introduction for CCHK. Unfortunately, the admin office will
> > be involved in organising the "Conference on Digital Convergence at
> > The University of Hong Kong from June 12-13" and Matthew will be on
> > leave on Monday. I will let everyone know when the CCHK version is
> > ready.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Haggen
> >
> > 2009/6/3 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
> > > Alexander,
> > >
> > > You are a good project manager! I am not sure if I can answer all of
> > > them but here are some of the answers.
> > >
> > > 2009/6/3 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
> > > > Hi all and Haggen,
> > > >
> > > > The Australian booklet is fine but as my view, the style maybe not be 
> > > > very
> > > > attractive to me. Will Matthew re-design it and if it is possible or
> > > > allowable to do so coz it is come from Creative Commons Australian? 
> > > > And, is
> > > > it a necessary to print a Australian booklet with 60 page full version? 
> > > > I
> > > > mean, to the environment and I guess, I guess the booklet should give a
> > > > short and clear and the main idea to the audience about Creative 
> > > > Commons and
> > > > the Case Studies and if they are really interested in it, they could 
> > > > visit
> > > > CCHK website to download a full version and get more further 
> > > > information.
> > >
> > > I have a discussion with Matthew just before and we will do some
> > > adjustment. I am also asking the Creative Commons Australia for the
> > > raw files. In terms of re-design, I am not sure if Matthew can afford
> > > the time. See if we can come to a compromise.
> > >
> > > > In addition,
> > > >
> > > > 1) How is the RTHK CC survey running? I mean the analysis of the 
> > > > survey.
> > > > Still waiting the PR department to finish the questionnaire analysis?
> > >
> > > It is up to RTHK to tell us the update.
> > >
> > > > 2) How is the LS training for teachers mentioned before?
> > >
> > > I attended the "Liberal Studies Assessment and Media" event on 23th
> > > May (http://www.isoc-hk.org/media-literacy/web.html) and there was a
> > > good discussion on copyright. I also had the chance to introduce CC to
> > > the audience and they were also very interested. I am co-ordinating
> > > with one of the co-organiser, Hong Kong Media Education Resources
> > > Web, to see if we can organise another talk on copyright ASAP.
> > >
> > > > and media attention also.
> > >
> > > The original plan was to generate media attention so that there will
> > > be more positive result for the survey. When I talked to our inhouse
> > > media specialist, she pointed out that CC may not be an issue with
> > > urgency. The articles submitted may not be printed on time before the
> > > survey ended.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I am building a media list so that we can be better
> > > prepared next time.
> > >
> > > > 3) And will there are any plan to organize a talk in secondary school 
> > > > or
> > > > university to the students in the future?
> > >
> > > No yet. But I plan to deliver some of the booklets in person and hear
> > > from friends from different University on how we can better serve and
> > > support them.
> > >
> > > > 4) At last but not the least, as Oiwan mentioned, how is the volunteer 
> > > > register system and legco monitor?
> > >
> > > Yes I did miss out on the volunteer register system. I will follow up.
> > >
> > > I plan to organise the legco watch after 64, as most who care about
> > > politics are probably occupied by this issue right now.
> > >
> > > > There are a lot of questions and most of them are pointed out before 
> > > > but I
> > > > can't see any more discussion on it? Feel free to answer my trouble =)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Alexander
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > Haggen,
> > > >
> > > > Your suggestion works fine. That matches my thought perfectly.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > SC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Haggen So wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) 
> > > > Pro*
> > > > Hi SC,
> > > >
> > > > The plan is to distribution both Chinese and English booklets to
> > > > interested departments and libraries (if possible) in higher
> > > > institutions so that academics and students can easily access these
> > > > materials.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with the first one is that some information is outdated as
> > > > it was produced in late 2006. To improve it, we may need co-ordination
> > > > and updated information from CC International, which will further
> > > > delay the process. Therefore the approach I adopted before was to use
> > > > ready-made materials.
> > > >
> > > > To partly remedy the short-comings of the booklet "Asia and the
> > > > Commons Case Studies 2008", I will include a two-sided English flyer
> > > > printed during the Launch
> > > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Please comment.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Haggen
> > > >
> > > > 2009/6/3 sc AT itvoice.hk <sc AT itvoice.hk>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Who are the audience of the publication and what is the purpose of the
> > > > publication?
> > > >
> > > > "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" is more an entry level 
> > > > publication.
> > > > The Australian booklet is a more advanced level publication and it is a
> > > > better one.
> > > >
> > > > Can we afford to have a pamphlet that is a simplified version of the
> > > > first one, and then a full printed version of the Australian booklet?
> > > >
> > > > SC
> > > >
> > > > Haggen So wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) 
> > > > Pro*
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > After searching promotion materials from English speaking
> > > > jurisdictions: Australia, Canada, UK, South Africa and India, I found
> > > > that the booklet "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" may be
> > > > suitable. http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons It is a
> > > > full-colour 60-page booklet with 16 case studies of CC projects in
> > > > Asia and beyond. The shortcomings of this booklet is that there is no
> > > > beginner level introduction of CC and the reader is assumed to have
> > > > some former understanding. Also, we may not be able to print many
> > > > copies of this booklet.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to get some feedback from the community these two
> > > > promotion materials: "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" and
> > > > former suggestion, "Encouraging the ecology of creativity from CCi
> > > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Haggen
> > > >
> > > > 2009/5/21 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > If there is no further opinion, I will proceed with the logistics for
> > > > English promotion materials.
> > > >
> > > > Current progress:
> > > > I discovered that "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" was produced
> > > > in 2006 (the first page said 2007, but I was told it was done the year
> > > > before)
> > > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
> > > > I am in the process of contacting CCi and finding out if there is any
> > > > more updated material with similar content.
> > > >
> > > > I will be on leave next week from 25-29 May. It is just a "holiday
> > > > destroying" exercise and I will still in Hong Kong. I will answer
> > > > emails and if it is really urgent, find my office number from the CCHK
> > > > official web site and one of my colleagues will give you my mobile.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Haggen
> > > >
> > > > 2009/5/19 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > >From my experience as a student at UST and expat contacts who are
> > > > professors
> > > > or students at other universities in HK, I would say that English 
> > > > versions
> > > > are also important.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Griff
> > > >
> > > > Griffith W. Jones
> > > > insight AT gjones.com
> > > > www.gjones.com
> > > > 852-9738-1170
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Haggen So wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Just an update.
> > > >
> > > > I finally submitted the conference paper yesterday and I can do more
> > > > work on this.
> > > >
> > > > I have done a stocktake and there areabout 3800 copies of Chinese CC
> > > > Education Kit
> > > >
> > > > http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cc-kit_081006_final.pdf
> > > > We can afford to give 200-300 copies to each distribution point.
> > > >
> > > > I am also wondering if we need to distribute English material as well,
> > > > as stakeholders in Universities can be expatriates. Currently the
> > > > standard English material is a two-sided Flyer. There are about 230 of
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
> > > > It looks quite unsubstantial compared with the Education Kit. We need
> > > > a reprint if we are going to distribute them.
> > > >
> > > > I sourced English materials on
> > > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Documentation and found "Encouraging
> > > > the ecology of creativity"
> > > >
> > > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
> > > > A 13 page a-bit-smaller-than-A4 introductory material on the general
> > > > principles of CC and renowned international projects. This can give a
> > > > complementary view to the Education Kit which is very local.
> > > >
> > > > I just want to collect opinion on whether 200-300 copies is a good
> > > > number and whether English material will be important.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Haggen
> > > >
> > > > 2009/5/14 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > It is a great respond. I am still working on my paper but most of it
> > > > is written now. Let me give some feedbacks.
> > > >
> > > > 2009/5/13 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure if CCHK should do the same case to the Hong Kong 
> > > > institute
> > > > of
> > > > Vocational Education as in the University.
> > > >
> > > > Alexander
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, we can try that as well. Do you have any contacts?
> > > >
> > > > 2009/5/13 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > What about HKUST?
> > > >
> > > > Griff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Everyone please suggest. I do have a distant contact. I will try, but
> > > > don't know if if will work.
> > > >
> > > > Media email list
> > > > I keep a collection of Hong Kong News articles published about CC from
> > > > pre-launch to Apr 09 (e.g. http://cchk.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+6 ) I
> > > > will work on that and of course, I will ask Velentina, our inhouse
> > > > veteran, for help.
> > > >
> > > > I am also sourcing some English materials from
> > > > http://creativecommons.org/about/downloads/ and other place for
> > > > non-Chinese audience.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Haggen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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