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[Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>]

Hi All,

CC Australia has made the raw files for the booklet available for
reuse on their web site.
http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons

I have some ideas on how to alter part of the booklet and I have
drafted an introduction for CCHK. Unfortunately, the admin office will
be involved in organising the "Conference on Digital Convergence at
The University of Hong Kong from June 12-13" and Matthew will be on
leave on Monday. I will let everyone know when the CCHK version is
ready.

Regards,

Haggen

2009/6/3 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
> Alexander,
>
> You are a good project manager! I am not sure if I can answer all of
> them but here are some of the answers.
>
> 2009/6/3 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
>> Hi all and Haggen,
>>
>>   The Australian booklet is fine but as my view, the style maybe not be 
>> very
>> attractive to me. Will Matthew re-design it and if it is possible or
>> allowable to do so coz it is come from Creative Commons Australian? And, is
>> it a necessary to print a Australian booklet with 60 page full version? I
>> mean, to the environment and I guess, I guess the booklet should give a
>> short and clear and the main idea to the audience about Creative Commons 
>> and
>> the Case Studies and if they are really interested in it, they could visit
>> CCHK website to download a full version and get more further information.
>
> I have a discussion with Matthew just before and we will do some
> adjustment. I am also asking the Creative Commons Australia for the
> raw files.  In terms of re-design, I am not sure if Matthew can afford
> the time. See if we can come to a compromise.
>
>>   In addition,
>>
>> 1) How is the RTHK CC survey running? I mean the analysis of the survey.
>> Still waiting the PR department to finish the questionnaire analysis?
>
> It is up to RTHK to tell us the update.
>
>> 2) How is the LS training for teachers mentioned before?
>
> I attended the "Liberal Studies Assessment and Media" event on 23th
> May (http://www.isoc-hk.org/media-literacy/web.html) and there was a
> good discussion on copyright. I also had the chance to introduce CC to
> the audience and they were also very interested. I am co-ordinating
> with  one of the co-organiser, Hong Kong Media Education Resources
> Web, to see if we can organise another talk on copyright ASAP.
>
>> and media attention also.
>
> The original plan was to generate media attention so that there will
> be more positive result for the survey. When I talked to our inhouse
> media specialist, she pointed out that CC may not be an issue with
> urgency. The articles submitted may not be printed on time before the
> survey ended.
>
> On the other hand, I am building a media list so that we can be better
> prepared next time.
>
>> 3) And will there are any plan to organize a talk in secondary school or
>> university to the students in the future?
>
> No yet. But I plan to deliver some of the booklets in person and hear
> from friends from different University on how we can better serve and
> support them.
>
>> 4) At last but not the least, as Oiwan mentioned, how is the volunteer 
>> register system and legco monitor?
>
> Yes I did miss out on the volunteer register system. I will follow up.
>
> I plan to organise the legco watch after 64, as most who care about
> politics are probably occupied by this issue right now.
>
>> There are a lot of questions and most of them are pointed out before but I
>> can't see any more discussion on it? Feel free to answer my trouble =)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alexander
>> ________________________________
>> Haggen,
>>
>> Your suggestion works fine. That matches my thought perfectly.
>>
>> Regards,
>> SC
>>
>>
>> Haggen So wrote:
>>
>> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro*
>> Hi SC,
>>
>> The plan is to distribution both Chinese and English booklets to
>> interested departments and libraries (if possible) in higher
>> institutions so that academics and students can easily access these
>> materials.
>>
>> The problem with the first one is that some information is outdated as
>> it was produced in late 2006. To improve it, we may need co-ordination
>> and updated information from CC International, which will further
>> delay the process. Therefore the approach I adopted before was to use
>> ready-made materials.
>>
>> To partly remedy the short-comings of the booklet "Asia and the
>> Commons Case Studies 2008", I will include a two-sided English flyer
>> printed during the Launch
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
>>
>> Please comment.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Haggen
>>
>> 2009/6/3 sc AT itvoice.hk <sc AT itvoice.hk>:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Who are the audience of the publication and what is the purpose of the
>> publication?
>>
>> "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" is more an entry level publication.
>> The Australian booklet is a more advanced level publication and it is a
>> better one.
>>
>> Can we afford to have a pamphlet that is a simplified version of the
>> first one, and then a full printed version of the Australian booklet?
>>
>> SC
>>
>> Haggen So wrote:
>>
>>
>> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro*
>> Hi All,
>>
>> After searching promotion materials from English speaking
>> jurisdictions: Australia, Canada, UK, South Africa and India, I found
>> that the booklet "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" may be
>> suitable. http://creativecommons.org.au/asiaandthecommons  It is a
>> full-colour 60-page booklet with 16 case studies of CC projects in
>> Asia and beyond. The shortcomings of this booklet is that there is no
>> beginner level introduction of CC and the reader is assumed to have
>> some former understanding. Also, we may not be able to print many
>> copies of this booklet.
>>
>> I would like to get some feedback from the community these two
>> promotion materials: "Asia and the Commons Case Studies 2008" and
>> former suggestion, "Encouraging the ecology of creativity from CCi
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>>
>> Haggen
>>
>> 2009/5/21 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> If there is no further opinion, I will proceed with the logistics for
>> English promotion materials.
>>
>> Current progress:
>> I discovered that "Encouraging the ecology of creativity" was produced
>> in 2006 (the first page said 2007, but I was told it was done the year
>> before)
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>> I am in the process of contacting CCi and finding out if there is any
>> more updated material with similar content.
>>
>> I will be on leave next week from 25-29 May. It is just a "holiday
>> destroying" exercise and I will still in Hong Kong. I will answer
>> emails and if it is really urgent, find my office number from the CCHK
>> official web site and one of my colleagues will give you my mobile.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Haggen
>>
>> 2009/5/19 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> >From my experience as a student at UST and expat contacts who are
>> professors
>> or students at other universities in HK, I would say that English versions
>> are also important.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Griff
>>
>> Griffith W. Jones
>> insight AT gjones.com
>> www.gjones.com
>> 852-9738-1170
>>
>>
>>
>> Haggen So wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Just an update.
>>
>> I finally submitted the conference paper yesterday and I can do more
>> work on this.
>>
>> I have done a stocktake and there areabout 3800 copies of Chinese CC
>> Education Kit
>>
>> http://hk.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cc-kit_081006_final.pdf
>> We can afford to give 200-300 copies to each distribution point.
>>
>> I am also wondering if we need to distribute English material as well,
>> as stakeholders in Universities can be expatriates. Currently the
>> standard English material is a two-sided Flyer. There are about 230 of
>> them.
>>
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/62/Creativecommons-informational-flyer_eng.pdf
>> It looks quite unsubstantial compared with the Education Kit. We need
>> a reprint if we are going to distribute them.
>>
>> I sourced English materials on
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Documentation and found "Encouraging
>> the ecology of creativity"
>>
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/6/65/Creativecommons-encouraging-the-ecology-of-creativity_eng.pdf
>> A 13 page a-bit-smaller-than-A4 introductory material on the general
>> principles of CC and renowned international projects. This can give a
>> complementary view to the Education Kit which is very local.
>>
>> I just want to collect opinion on whether 200-300 copies is a good
>> number and whether English material will be important.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>>
>> Haggen
>>
>> 2009/5/14 Haggen So <haggenso AT gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> It is a great respond. I am still working on my paper but most of it
>> is written now. Let me give some feedbacks.
>>
>> 2009/5/13 Kwun Piu Wong <kwun_piu AT hotmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not sure if CCHK should do the same case to the Hong Kong institute
>> of
>> Vocational Education as in the University.
>>
>> Alexander
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, we can try that as well. Do you have any contacts?
>>
>> 2009/5/13 Griffith Jones <insight AT gjones.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> What about HKUST?
>>
>> Griff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Everyone please suggest. I do have a distant contact. I will try, but
>> don't know if if will work.
>>
>> Media email list
>> I keep a collection of Hong Kong News articles published about CC from
>> pre-launch to Apr 09 (e.g. http://cchk.wetpaint.com/page/Dec+6 ) I
>> will work on that and of course, I will ask Velentina, our inhouse
>> veteran, for help.
>>
>> I am also sourcing some English materials from
>> http://creativecommons.org/about/downloads/ and other place for
>> non-Chinese audience.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Haggen
>>
>>
>>
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