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  • From: Prodromos Tsiavos <prodromos.tsiavos AT gmail.com>
  • To: John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de>
  • Cc: "cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [CC-Europe] shall we join the EU IPR infringements observatory
  • Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:38:10 +0300

Is there a formal requirement for a legal entity?

best
pRo


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:37 PM, John Hendrik Weitzmann <jhweitzmann AT mx.uni-saarland.de> wrote:
to revive iCommons alias CC Europe as a legal entity just for this might
be a bit odd. The way to go could be to join as CC HQ represented by
Gwen & me as the European contractors who are based in Europe. If that
doesn't work, something with the European CC Leads as a "consortium"
could, EU is all about such structures. Just ideas ...

Best
John


Am 14.04.2014 12:16, schrieb Paul Keller:
> we have a dormant legal entity that is called icommons in the UK. this
> is something CC created a long while ago but that has never been put to
> good use. We are currently thinking about dissolving it, but maybe we
> could transform it into CC europe. The main lesson from icommosn would
> be that if we want to transofrm it we should first know what we want the
> new entity to do.... /paul
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Pamfisher <pamfisher AT gmail.com
> <mailto:pamfisher AT gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Isn't CC Europe a legal entity? I think Diane Peters created a legal
>     entity in the UK at some stage - perhaps this could be used?
>     Pam
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On 14 Apr 2014, at 08:15, Alek Tarkowski <alek AT creativecommons.pl
>     <mailto:alek AT creativecommons.pl>> wrote:
>
>>     John,
>>
>>     I think this is a good idea . but the observatory can only be
>>     joined by organizations with an international scope. so one option
>>     would be for CC (HQ) to join as an org, but this might be a
>>     problem since they are not Europe based. that's why we're working,
>>     with Paul, on having Communia join.
>>
>>     best,
>>
>>     Alek
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Apr 13, 2014, at 18:39, John Weitzmann
>>     <johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org
>>     <mailto:johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org>> wrote:
>>
>>>     I didn't expect the meeting to be the only task, but such meeting
>>>     obligations are usually the most problematic part (also given our
>>>     tight budget this year). I guess we can manage to give
>>>     input/timely comments and that might even be helpful as a regular
>>>     ping on policy and law reform for the group - which might mean
>>>     some more "Action required:" emails on this list ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Paul Keller <pk AT kl.nl
>>>     <mailto:pk AT kl.nl>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         i think it is a good idea to join, but i think you are
>>>         underestimating the work. being a member also means that you
>>>         get the ability to comment on the reports produced by the
>>>         group and it does not really makes sense to be a member
>>>         without being willing (or having the time to do this). I
>>>         think that we should try to join (Alek is currently figuring
>>>         out how this can be done for communia) but that we should
>>>         only do this if we are confident that we can actually make a
>>>         useful contribution (and that is more than attending one
>>>         meeting a year). best, paul
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 13 Apr 2014, at 16:00, John Weitzmann
>>>         <johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org
>>>         <mailto:johnweitzmann AT creativecommons.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         > Hi all,
>>>         >
>>>         > folks over at Wikimedia have asked whether we could
>>>         consider to join the EU observatory on infringements of IPR
>>>         (https://oami.europa.eu/ohimportal/en/web/observatory/home)
>>>         as a group. Right now there's only them, EDRi and some few
>>>         other independent civil society groups listed with the
>>>         observatory, Communia possibly to join also. Wikimedia would
>>>         like to build some more counterweight to the strong
>>>         corporate/gov bias present in the working groups. Gwen and I
>>>         think that this makes sense and the effort comes down to
>>>         about 1 in-person meeting per year, which I or someone else
>>>         (any volunteers?) should reasonably manage to attend in Brussels.
>>>         >
>>>         > Any thoughts on this? Comments?
>>>         >
>>>         > Best
>>>         > John & Gwen
>>>         > _______________________________________________
>>>         > CC-Europe mailing list
>>>         > CC-Europe AT lists.ibiblio.org
>>>         <mailto:CC-Europe AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>>>         > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-europe
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>     --
>>     koordynator, Creative Commons Polska
>>     European Policy Advisor, Creative Commons
>>     Twitter: @atarkowski / @ccpolska
>>     WWW: creativecommons.pl <http://creativecommons.pl> / oerpolicy.eu
>>     <http://oerpolicy.eu>
>>
>>     polecam:
>>     uwolnij.podrecznik.org <http://uwolnij.podrecznik.org> /
>>     otwartawiedza.pl <http://otwartawiedza.pl> / otwartengo.pl
>>     <http://otwartengo.pl> / otwartezabytki.pl <http://otwartezabytki.pl>
>>
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