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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

> Message from Steven
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> Sindi wrote:
> > Is there some reason 2.2.5 would not work as well?

It worked fine once I added ldconfig that was not libc5.
I thought ldconfig was only used to make symlinks, which I had made 
manually.  SW81 has a roughly 400K static ldconfig.

> I haven't a clue.  The recommended library is 2.3.1
> and I know that works.

Recommended for which version of Opera?  Version 8.0 required at least 
2.2.25.  9.02 did not work with 2.2.25.  I may have to use 2.3.1instead 
for 9.20 in BL3.  It should not affect compiling for libc5.

How would I compile for libc5 in a BL3 to which I added glibc-solibs?
Do I need to add some flag telling gcc which libc to use?

> > This is a large package.
>
> I don't think 1mb is excessive.  IIRC the 2.3.1
> libraries are actually smaller than 2.2.5

I was talking about the package, relative to the libc itself.
2.2.5 glibc is about 1.2MB.  What size is 2.3.1?
Most of the rest of the package is not needed.

> > Could you check whether just the libraries
> > listed by ldd opera are adequate?
>
> As I've said several times before, it is safer
> to install complete Slackware packages rather
> than guessing which files you need.  It is easy
> to get things wrong and waste hours (days?)
> trying to figure out the problem.

Months in my case.  The libraries were adequate, but I needed ldconfig. 
But now I have something that is smaller and works as well. It took you 
more than days to put together BL3 and solve the problem of making it 
smaller.  That is why I like it so much, it does not contain irrelevant 
files.

> I realize you like to keep things small (so
> you really should be using links2 for graphical
> browsing).  But if you want to use Opera (or
> other fancy glibc2 application), then you are
> going to have to live with some bloat. I'm
> sure there are many unnessary files in Opera
> that you could delete, but you'd be on a fool's
> errand trying to find them by trial and error.

I use Opera when all else fails (javascript for instance) Normally I use 
lynx, with links as a downloader to see frames/tables.  But other people 
want Opera.

> > Do you really need all of it or just libXext,
> > libICE and libSM?
>
> I recommend you install the entire package.

I did not need to.  Opera does not use the other libraries.  I will add 
whatever else Abiword requires.  The people I am putting this together for 
will come back to me if they need any other applications.  They don't 
always have a spare partition or want to risk shrinking their FAT32 
partition so I want something that fits in a 50MB loop file, or at least 
in 100MB.  Lots of people just want a browser and email (included in Opera 
if you do not want webmail) and a wordprocessor that prints.  We have five 
HP500 series to give away.  A friend's student thinks he needs a faster 
computer for the internet so I offered to make his faster.

> Cheers,
> Steven
>
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