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Thank you Christof.  Ron's idea of using a program that requires Gnome is 
too close to actually using Windows for my taste, but it is good to know 
there are several approaches.  I have not dealt with Latin-2 (Czech) fonts 
in X and hope not to have to.  Graphical links2 was the perfect solution 
for reading Czech html with tables.  The file was created by another 
translator (not a Czech manager) and I did a 'back translation' (put it 
back into English to make sure they got the sense right).  Probably 
someone at the translation company thought it would be nice to use tables 
to do this.  But of course it makes things harder to read (in narrow 
columns).

I have only used catdoc for DOS.  Christof, have you compiled catdoc 
and/or the xls convertors (both directions, to and from html) for BL2 or 
BL3?  Or are they available already compiled?

Since catdoc and the xls convertors are CLI, to read the Czech while 
typing the English I can just load an E. European font.  The lower ASCII 
characters (used to type English) are the same in the two fonts.
This will let me view original and what I am typing at the same time.

The way I did it, I put the Czech on one screen and typed on the other, 
but it had to be two computers because links2 graphical cannot be used at 
the same time as a text console, tho I can view two text consoles at the 
same time (MDA/TTL and VGA).  I tried using lynx with the correct font 
loaded to display the Czech, but it does not do tables.  I should have 
loaded a Czech VGA font and used links non-graphical on the VGA screen and 
typed my translation on the TTL screen but I was lazy.  (This could also 
be done in a text console with splitvt, which makes it easy to copy 
between half-screens, or in X with windows.)


Can cvs format be imported into not only the BL spreadsheet (sc?) but also 
Excel?  Or is there a cvs2xls as well?

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 cce.zizkov AT volny.cz wrote:

> On 30 Sep 04 at 20:27, keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
>
> > Someone just sent me an Excel file to translate, in Czech, and told me to
> > 'just type in the English in that column'.  The best I could do was xlhmtl
> > (I even have a DOS version) to convert to .htm, and then display the output
> > with Links. (Lynx does not do tables, W3m does not do Czech, and links2
> > graphical displays Czech without any need to load a font).  But I cannot
> > easily translate in the resulting file in a column.
> >
> > I got this going because the local Red Cross blood donation people send out
> > their donation schedules in Excel format instead of text.
>
> This is quite frequent behaviour among Czech managers. They do not
> bother with MS Word, but write what they want into a table and send
> it as attachment to you.
>
> > Is there some linux program that will import and also export Excel .xls
> > files, that works with Xvesa?  Maybe even in BL3?
>
> Catdoc ver. 0.93 comes with a second binary xls2csv that converts 2D
> .xls sheets into .cvs format, text with tables separated by ';'.
> You will be able to import this to any spreadheet, I think even
> the minimalist one in BL.

I have found several DOS spreadsheets that import this format, including a 
free one by a Slovak author that I like.

> Christof
>
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