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[James Miller <jamtat AT mailsnare.net>]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, sindi keesan wrote:

> I just got two autoreplies from the C Zone - I thought this had been
> switched off already.  Don't need even more mail to delete.
>
I seem to be getting 2 or 3 of these each time I send a message to the
list.  It seems rather rude and inconsiderate that someone would set up
their mail client in such a way, doesn't it?  Can we do something about
this, like letting this individual know he should reconfigure his client
in some more considerate way or leave the list?

James
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i think the latest Opera for Linux also has mail now.

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From: James Miller <jamtat AT mailsnare.net>
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Subject: [BL] Opera 7.10 beta, graphical browser stuff

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> Steven: did you note that Opera has come out with a new Linux beta - 7.10=
?Seems like a chance that the bugs you were encountering in 6.XX may havego=
tten worked out in that release.  Are you planning on trying it?  I maygive=
 it a try.Still haven't gotten much done on Skipstone, but am preparing to =
do so.Just a clarification: Mozilla is needed only for compiling Skipstone,=
right?  If so, once one has compiled it, one could just get rid ofMozilla i=
t seems.Finally, I wonder if the browser ViewML might be worth looking into=
.  It'sin quite early stages of development, but it's based on KFM - the ol=
d KDEfile browser - so it's got some development behind it already.  It say=
s itdoes minimal javascripting, and renders html 3.2.  It's quite small -un=
der 2MB, I believe.  One needs to install another package to get this tocom=
pile - ftkl or something like that.  The URL for the ViewML site is<a targe=
t=3D_blank href=3D"http://www.viewml.com";>http://www.viewml.com</a> .It's b=
eing developed for embedded devices, as faras I can tell.More later.James__=
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sindi keesan wrote:
> 
> I have been unable to change any of the preferences so 
> as to start with a blank page. 

In Netscape 3.04, you click on Options-> General Preferences
-> Appearance-> Startup

> I did not know I could do other things while dialing.  

I've never used wvdial, but ppp-on certainly works that
way.  Normally when I startx (which loads icewm and then
netscape), I click on ppp-on as soon as icewm has loaded.
Netscape takes another 20-30 seconds and is ready about
the same as I get the ppp connection.

> Please explain what you mean by running better.  

First, Netscape 3.04 was more stable with icewm.  I got 
significantly fewer crashes.  Second, icewm gave me greater 
control over the various sub-windows that Netscape throws up.

> I have been trying it both ways (fvwm)J and I don't see any 
> difference.  

I can't speak for fvwm.  IMHO it is an inferior wm.

> I figured out I could reboot from VT3 instead of powering off.

You can also kill netscape from VT3.  
---------------------
kill `pidof netscape`
---------------------

> Have you tried 4.61?

Nope.

> Netscape told me that the security certificate for 3 was 
> no longer valid, but for 4 it was.  You need security at 
> some sites.

Netscape 3.04 still provides security.  I used it on a secure 
site just yesterday.  When a security certificate expires it
automatically gets a new one from the site (you just have to
click on some boxes).

> What exactly goes wrong with Opera?  

It crashes when the first character of data is entered 
into a form.  No error message of any kind.  Nothing 
in /var/log/messages.  It's a clean crash (I still have 
control) so I can poke around.  But there is no sign of 
a problem anywhere.  No warning.  No complaint.  Nothing.

> Why would you use Dillo instead of Lynx or Links 

Better layout.

> Will it work with Realaudio?

I know nothing about Realaudio.  I don't even have a
sound card in this machine (which may explain why I
happily stripped sound out of the BL2 kernel).

> SuSE Linux is running 1 login, 5 mingettys, cron (they say 
> to be sure never to delete this from rc.config), 

I wonder what they are using cron for?  It is normally used
to run things automatically at a particular time (like doing
a backup in the middle of the night).  If your machine on 
all the time?

> lpd (just in case we ever want to print)

I only execute lpd (from the command line) when I want
to print.  And then kill it when I am finished:
----------------
kill `pidof lpd`
----------------

> syslogd, klogd

Logging daemons.  I turn them on (from the command line)
when I'm debugging something.  

> kflushd, kpiod, kswapd.  Presumably the k's are not needed 
> if you don't use KDE?  

On the contrary, I think the k stands for kernel.  They 
are fundamental processes (even BasicLinux runs them).

Cheers,
Steven