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[JP Piers ( drinou ) <f5nlg AT tiscali.fr>]

Hi,

it should work you need right drivers , sox, aumix, mpg123 for sound works 

cheers 

Jean-Philippe 


le Sun, 13 Apr 2003 11:54:54 +0100
"Andrew" <a.gatt AT btinternet.com> écrit:

> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if the BasicLinux kernel can support sound? I realise I
> need the right drivers, however they don't seem to be installing
> correctly. They might be the wrong drivers, but I thought I'd check to
> see if it should work at all.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andrew
> 
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More on the subject of small window managers and running X programs
without any window managers.

Some data on how much RAM is used by the various managers.  The number is
what you get on the second line after typing 'free' - which I think is
memory used other than for cache and buffers.

I was later able to reduce memory usage (on a typical SuSE 6.2
installation) by .5M by removing a bunch of things I did not see running
in BL2 - NFS stuff, httpd, Name Server Cache Daemon.  It is still running
a CRON daemon and random number generator - do I need those?

VT1 - 4680  (how does BL2 compare?)
VT1 + X = 6904
VT1 + X + VT2 (in which to run 'free') = 8096
Add to this:                                            Used by the wm
twm = 8564                                              468
mwm (with error messages) = 8524                        428
kwm = 10,660                                            2564
fvwm/fvwm2 = 12,020/12,600                              5696
KDE = 14,732                                            6636

In comparison, running Netscape with no window manager used less RAM than
running KDE with no applications = 13,936 (7032 used by Netscape).

Gave up on whatever dialer was included with KDE and ran YaST to configure
wvdial (phone number, login, password).  Also put the DNS numbers in
rc.config.  wvdial works fine, run from a VT (and may use less RAM).

Ran Netscape and lynx without a window manager as follows:

1.  Login on VT1 - load X with xinit (VT7)
2.  Ctrl-Alt-F2 to VT2 - wvdial (connect to ISP)
3.  Ctrl-Alt-F7 - load Netscape 4.61, access the suse.de home page
4.  Ctrl-Alt-F3 - load Lynx 2.8.3 (which has no viewer, need to add one)
5.  Compared the alltheweb page with the two browsers, then I tried to
access my webmail with Netscape.  It let me log in and go to the inbox,
but when I tried to read the first mail, I got a blank page.  I tried to
back out (could not - but I cannot with Win95 Netscape either).  Tried to
reload the webmail home page and got a blank (but Win95 Netscape 4.7 kept
telling me it had loaded 995 bytes for ten minutes).  I don't know if the
problem is due to Netscape not working well at this site, or due to
running it without a window manager.  With Win95 Netscape I was at least
able to read my mail.

Would anyone else like to try running Netscape with no window manager?  I
am not very familiar with any Netscape (or any other Windows graphical
browser that uses multiple windows) and may be doing something wrong.

The other problem is that after exiting Netscape, I could not enter any
commands in the xterm (even with the mouse arrow in the window), including
Ctrl-C, nor could I exit X, or even reboot with Ctrl-Alt-Del.  I powered
off.

Does Netscape require a window manager to behave properly?  I did not have
the problem of being unable to use xterm after exiting Netscape when I did
not first use it online (unless I recall wrong).

Since even twm or mwm seem to take up over 1.5M RAM, it would be nice not
to bother with them.  Netscape plus X (on a 16M RAM computer) uses nearly
14M even without a window manager, without having dialed, and without
accessing any pages of any sort. How much RAM does ratpoison use?

Does Opera use less RAM?  Does Dillon?