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  • From: Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn AT gmail.com>
  • To: Petr Tomasek <petr.tomasek AT evangnet.cz>
  • Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hitpael 1st pers plural bow down/worship
  • Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:33:57 -0700



On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Petr Tomasek <tomasek AT etf.cuni.cz> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 06:13:57PM -0700, Dave Washburn wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:26 PM, K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ken:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ken Penner <kpenner AT stfx.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> Do the following help?
> >>
> >> Joüon §59g: "In the light of Ugr. tštḥwy “she prostrates herself,” what
> >> used to be considered hitpa̧ʿlẹl, represented almost entirely by the
> >> frequent הִשְׁתַּחֲוָה to worship, to prostrate oneself, is most likely a
> >> Hištafʿel of √ חוי."
> >>
> >
> > From where does he get this?
> >
> >>
> >>
> What you're seeing, both there and in the Jouon quote, is a grammarian
> trying desperately to figure out what's going on with this unique word. It
> used to be taught that it was a hitpa`el of $XH with metathesis of the shin
> and the tau, and no clue why the waw. But as Ken already mentioned,
> Ugaritic has shown us that the root is actually XWH and the stem is a
> hi$tap`el. Once upon a time we had a grid of stems with a hole in the
> middle:
>
>                      Basic             Emphatic              Causative
>
> Active             qal                  pi`el                    hip`il
>
> Passive          nip`al               pu`al                   hop`al
>
> Reflexive         nip`al                 ?                      hitpa`el

This is wrong: a) nipʿal is not a passive stem originally,
b) hitpaʿel is not (and never was) a causative stem.

Whoops! You are corect about the hitpa`el. I got it and the question mark switched.

In BH at least, the nip'al functions both passively and reflexively. The chart doesn't really go into what they were originally.

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