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- From: "Peter Streitenberger" <ps2866 AT bingo-ev.de>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...
- Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 20:40:04 +0200
The writers of the NT obviously didn't know or at least didn't quote from LXX-Manusripts containing anything else than KURIOS. There is not the slightest evidence for a corruption of the New Testament Text. No early and no later manuscript is there to prove this claim, only known through the Jehohvas Witnesses trying to justify their false "translation" of "Jehova" in their text.
Let's keep this issue away, if we want to be serious. At least it's not related to the subject of this board, namely Biblical Hebrew.
Peter Streitenberger, Germany
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Rolf
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 6:35 PM
To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...
Dear Dave,
In all the LXX fragments, and LXX-like fragments up to about 50 CE we find either YHWH in Hebrew letters or the Greek transcription IAO where YHWH occurs in Hebrew manuscripts. In the Chester Beatty manuscripts from the second century and other later manuscripts we find KS. Is it a corruption of the text to replace the tetragram or IAO with KS?
Best regards,
Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway
Søndag 9. Juni 2013 18:14 CEST skrev Dave Washburn <davidlwashburn AT gmail.com>:
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Rolf <rolf.furuli AT sf-nett.no> wrote:
> Dear Stephen,
>
> [snip]
>
> 2) If the nomina sacra represent a change in the text (something is
> deleted and a new reading is introduced), will that not mean that we > have a
> corrupt text (=words that were not in the original text)?
>
> If the scribes had replaced the word with something else, that would
constitute corruption. But merely abbreviating some words is simply a
writing style. It is not "something is deleted and a new reading is
introduced." The reading is the same word, it's just written slightly
differently to save space. There is no basis whatsoever for calling use of
the nomina sacra corruption; this could be considered an abuse of the term.
If an American is copying a British text and replaces "honour" with "honor"
is that a corruption? I think not. It's a spelling variation, nothing more.
It does no damage at all to the meaning of the text because readers still
know what the word is. It's the same with the NS, and claiming that their
use corrupted the text is a case of creating an "issue" where none exists.
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- [b-hebrew] Jehova-Kurios in the NT, ps2866, 06/07/2013
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Rolf, 06/09/2013
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Dave Washburn, 06/09/2013
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Rolf, 06/09/2013
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Peter Streitenberger, 06/09/2013
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cosmos, 06/09/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Peter Streitenberger, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
cosmos, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Dave Washburn, 06/09/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Rolf, 06/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 06/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Rolf, 06/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 06/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Ken Penner, 06/10/2013
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- Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name..., Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 06/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...,
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III, 06/10/2013
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Rolf, 06/10/2013
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Peter Streitenberger, 06/09/2013
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Rolf, 06/09/2013
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