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- From: Ken Penner <kpenner AT stfx.ca>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 13:37:45 -0300
I apologize for not signing my previous posts. Ken M. Penner, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Religious Studies 2329 Notre Dame Avenue, 409 Nicholson Tower St. Francis Xavier University Antigonish, NS B2G 2W5 Canada (902)867-2265 kpenner AT stfx.ca From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ken Penner My Ph.D. thesis on Qumran Hebrew (in which wayyiqtol cannot be distinguished from weyiqtol) includes the following: “If a sequence of wyqtls follows on a qatal …, it is strongly correlated to Absolute Past (E<S), and the Indicative (Non-Modal), but is also somewhat correlated to Relative Present (E=R). … Conversely, if the sequence of wyqtls follows on a yiqtol (yiqtol+wyqtl) it is strongly correlated to Absolute Future and Modality.” From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ken Penner I tend to agree with Jan Joosten. His short description: “WAYYIQTOL is defined as an indicative preterite. This basic function accounts for the use of the form, which nearly always implies a past-tense interpretation. At the same time, the preterite definition avoids attributing to WAYYIQTOL functional traits that are not necessarily present (such as punctuality, sequentiality, foregrounding, or narrativity).” Joosten, Jan. 2012. The Verbal System of Biblical Hebrew : a New Synthesis Elaborated on the Basis of Classical Prose. Jerusalem: Simor. From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Shepherd Hi List, In our recent discussions about “meaning,” one of the things that Karl and I discussed was the wayyiqtol. Without starting a debate or any kind of lengthy discussion, I’d like to know what some of the various scholars on the list think the function of the wayyiqtol is. I know that Rolf has done extensive work here, and I’d love to see a short summary of his conclusions here. And I seem to remember that George has shared his views here as well. In any case, I’m not looking for a debate, but just a survey of the range of opinions as to what wayyiqtol’s function is. Here’s my own brief summary. I think that the most likely basic significance of wayyiqtol is that of indicating consecutiveness, succession, or sequencing. This succession can take place in a discourse that relates either past, present, or future events. But it is narrative, more than any other genre, that makes the most use of the idea of succession, and therefore makes the most use of the wayyiqtol. Because of this usage and the close association of narrative and wayyiqtol, the form, for all practical purposes, in narrative, comes to indicate past tense. This is so much the case that individual narratives can start with the wayyiqtol, and even in non-narrative texts, the wayyiqtol can indicate a past event, even without a sequence of verbs before it. Thus I am in agreement with Joüon-Muraoka that “the wayyiqtol form became so strongly associated with its past tense function that it was even used at the beginning, or at least at the relative beginning of some narratives.” (sect 118b). Again, no debate, or even back and forth discussion, just a survey of opinions. Blessings, Jerry |
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[b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Jerry Shepherd, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Ken Penner, 05/14/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Dave Washburn, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Ken Penner, 05/14/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Ken Penner, 05/14/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Isaac Fried, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Rolf, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Isaac Fried, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Rolf, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Rolf, 05/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Rolf, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Dave Washburn, 05/15/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol, Rolf, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
John Leake, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Rolf, 05/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Isaac Fried, 05/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] wayyiqtol,
Ken Penner, 05/14/2013
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