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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??²
- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??²
- Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:18:07 -0800
George:
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM, George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au> wrote:
NP$ as a verb has the basic idea of breathing as in being alive, to take a breather, to revive. As a noun it refers to all of these activities. I translate the noun as “life” knowing full well that the English word nowhere comes close to all the nuances carried by the Hebrew NP$.
Karl, here's a quick list of other occurrences I came up with to whet your נפשׁ.
- Exodus 15.9
My life will be filled… speaking of pharaoh and his soldiers who were thinking that they would make their lives more full with captives and treasure.
- Isaiah 56.11
“dogs strong of life” i.e. lively
- Jeremiah 22.27; 44.14;
“lifting up their lives” i.e. making an effort
50.19
“fill their lives”
- Ezekiel 24.25 (though this has more the sense of desire, rather appetite specifically)
Again the phrase of lifting up a life, i.e. putting in the effort. This is probably the closest of all the verses here, in that it’s used in parallel to desire of a specific person or thing, but even here “appetite” is not a necessary understanding of the word in its context.
- Hosea 4.8
“lifting up a life” making an effort towards their perversions
- Proverbs 6.30;
to fill a life that’s empty because he’s hungry.
- 23.2;
master of his own life
- 28.25 (though this is broader, probably greed);
“broad of life” i.e. imposing his will on others
Unless you are using “appetite” in a way that I have never seen anyone before use it, not once in these verses does “appetite” fit. I don’t see from where you get this idea that it means “appetite” in these verses.
Karl W. Randolph.
From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 12 January 2013 2:38 AM
To: George Athas <george.athas AT moore.edu.au>
Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??²
George:
Do you have other verses where NP$ means “appetite”? One time uses of a meaning for a term can end up making a term undefined.
Karl W. Randolph.
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”, K Randolph, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
Dave Washburn, 01/10/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”, Isaac Fried, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
K Randolph, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
Isaac Fried, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
Pere Porta, 01/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
K Randolph, 01/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??²,
George Athas, 01/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??², K Randolph, 01/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??², George Athas, 01/11/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??², K Randolph, 01/13/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??², George Athas, 01/13/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??², K Randolph, 01/14/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 ³better than going ??²,
George Athas, 01/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
K Randolph, 01/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
Pere Porta, 01/11/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
Isaac Fried, 01/10/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”,
Pere Porta, 01/12/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”, K Randolph, 01/13/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”, Pere Porta, 01/13/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”, K Randolph, 01/14/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”, Pere Porta, 01/17/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] Ecclesiastes 6:9 “better than going ??”, K Randolph, 01/17/2013
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