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Re: [b-hebrew] Ex. 3:14 Ehyeh has sent me to you

From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
To: Norman Cohn <normanncohn AT yahoo.com.br>
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Ex. 3:14 Ehyeh has sent me to you
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 17:36:50 -0500

1. I am not a rule maker, nor an "explainer" of speech transformations, but I think that speakers tend to economize and minimize the attachments. Look at the factual table for the act HYH:

ANIY E-HYEH, ATAH TI-HYEH, HU YI-HYEH, ANU NI-HYEH, ATEM TI-HY-U, HEM YI-HY-U.

2. Consider also ABIYW, 'his father', with a consonant W, versus IMW, 'his mother', read IMO.

3. This may be of some interest. By edict of the Hebrew "Academy" the "correct" un-punctuated spelling is now היריון HYRAYON, 'pregnancy', with a Yod after the H. I suspect that this leads some to read now the Cere in הריון HERAION (Ruth 4:13) as Xirik.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jan 6, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Norman Cohn wrote:

Hi, Isaac!

Is there a general phonetic rule behind these transformations? Is there evidence of a tendency in Ancient Hebrew for the personal pronoun ANIY to be shortened to E in nouns like this? Could the derivation of HIY from HYH be explained according to a broader rule?

Sorry if the questions sound stupid!

Best regards,

Norman Cohn
São Paulo - Brasil

De: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
Para: cornelis den hertog <cok17 AT hotmail.com>
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Enviadas: Domingo, 6 de Janeiro de 2013 14:18
Assunto: Re: [b-hebrew] Ex. 3:14 Ehyeh has sent me to you

It occurs to me to add that the E in Ehyeh is evidently the shortened personal
pronoun אני ANIY attached to the act HYH, which I think is a forerunner of the
personal pronoun היא HIY. In the same way, HWH appears to me to be the
forerunner of הוא HU. Thus I see a possible link between EHYH and YHWH,
a link that the bible in Ex. 3:14 possibly tries to imply, albeit, circumspectly and obliquely.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:54 AM, cornelis den hertog wrote:

the name Ehyeh

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