Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Steve Miller" <smille10 AT sbcglobal.net>]

When a sentence in Biblical Hebrew starts with “And” prefixed to a noun, that usually indicates a new paragraph and is usually translated “but” in Psalms. In addition to v4 (v3 English), the same structure is in v7 “But I am a worm” & v20 “But You be not far from me”

 

Sincerely yours,

Steve Miller

Detroit

www.voiceInWilderness.info

Love the LORD all ye His saints.

LORD preserves the faithful,

and to those who deal proudly

He will repay in full. (Ps 31:23)

 

From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Streitenberger
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 22,3

 

Ok, I begin to understand ! Thank you, Lee and Karl ! My initial problem with this verse was that I couldn’t find a real oposition in the thoughts of David.

Yours
Peter M. Streitenberger

 

From: Lee Moses

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:39 PM

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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psa 22,3

 

Peter,

I concur with Karl.  The conjunction at the beginning of verse 4 does not represent a continuation of the previous train of thought, but a contrast.  The previous verses discuss God's apparent failure to respond to the psalmist, which stands in stark contrast to God's past dealings with אֲבֹתֵינוּ.

Sincerely,
Lee Moses

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:28:52 -0700
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Peter:

The Hebrew numbering is verse four.

I think that many translators read verse four as starting a new idea,
contrasted with what was written earlier in the psalm. Hence the ?but?.

Karl W. Randolph.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Peter Streitenberger <wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=ps2866 AT bingo-ev.de>wrote:

>   Dear Hebrew-Friends,
>
> in most of our German translations Psa 22,3 begins with ?but?: ?But You
> are holy?
> What is the case for it ? I don?t see any contrast or two opposite
> thoughts in this section.
> Can anyone help me ?
> Yours
> Peter M. Streitenberger, Germany
>

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