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- From: "Ishnian" <ishinan AT comcast.net>
- To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] BZH
- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:26:23 -0600
Nir Cohen wrote:
david, ishinan, BZH is also
used in hebrew as "loot, spoils (n)" which seems to agree with david's
arabic "to set aside (v)".
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Ishinan: Again, in this case, there seems to be a
problem with David's suggestion.
Since the Arabic verb is from the trilateral root
"bzz", it never means: "to set aside".
Rather it means: he took it away or seized it or carried away
by force, he took it away unjustly and forcibly. Hence, it is said in a well
known proverb: He who overcomes, takes the spoils (Arabic: man `azza bazza).
This is in agreement with the Hebrew 'bazaz' (962); plunder:--booty, prey,
spoil(-ed).
Even then, I fail to see how David's
proposed Arabic definitions of "set aside" (which BTW
are wrong) could lead to the sense of "spoil" (see the
definitions of "set aside" * below and judge for yourself )
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*set aside
1 reserve something: to keep something, especially time or money, for a specific purpose
2 put something to one side: to put something to one side
3 reject previous decision: to discard, reject, or annul a previous decision or judgment
1 reserve something: to keep something, especially time or money, for a specific purpose
2 put something to one side: to put something to one side
3 reject previous decision: to discard, reject, or annul a previous decision or judgment
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Note we are discussing in this exchange *TWO* different
Hebrew roots.
1) bzz : to spoil, plunder (see Brown Driver
Briggs # 962 p. 102)
2) bza: raise the head loftily and disdainfully, hence
despise, regard with contempt (see Brown Driver Briggs # 959 p.
102)
Best regards,
Ishinan Ishibashi
-
[b-hebrew] BZH,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 11/09/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] BZH, David Kolinsky, 11/09/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] BZH, Ishnian, 11/10/2012
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] BZH, Chavoux Luyt, 11/10/2012
-
[b-hebrew] BZH,
Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 11/12/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] BZH, David Kolinsky, 11/12/2012
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