Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Isaac Fried" <if AT math.bu.edu>]

Don't look for gender and number in the attached and inserted personal 
pronouns (identity markers.) HI and HU are used indiscriminately for 
variability. If needed, more markers are added, say,  DAT, 'religion', 
DAT-IY = DAT-HI, 'a religious man', DAT-IY-T = DAT-HI-AT, 'a religious 
woman'.

The feminine is often (but not always) used for diminution: KAP, 'palm of 
the hand, spoon', KAP-IY = KAP-ANIY, 'my palm of the hand', KAP-IY-T = 
KAP-HI-AT, 'tea spoon'.

Another example: ASUR = AS-HU-R, '(he is) bound, imprisoned', ASIYR = 
AS-HI-R, '(he is a) prisoner'.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Miller" <smille10 AT sbcglobal.net>
To: "'Isaac Fried'" <if AT math.bu.edu>; <steve AT voiceinwilderness.info>; "'Pere 
Porta'" <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
Cc: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:41 AM
Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Ps 45:9 mini


> > From: Isaac Fried
> >
> > In Isa. 22:4 MINIY = MIN-ANIY (with the dagesh in the N as expected after 
> > a
> > xirek.) In Job 31:7 MINIY = MIN-HI, with HI היא referring to the road.
>
> [Steve Miller] Thanks Isaac. But if מני  = מן + היא, wouldn't I would 
> expect it to be used just with feminine and common objects, but it is used 
> with masculine objects, i.e. Job 20:4; Ps 88:9. I don't see it being used 
> with any feminine objects.
> > I notice that in TUMATIY = TUMAH-ATIY the M is with a dagesh as expected
> > after a qubuc, in TITEH the T (tet) is with a dagesh as expected after a 
> > xirik, in
> > A$URIY = A$UR-ANIY the $ is with a dagesh as expected after a patax, in
> > HADAREK the D is as expected with a dagesh after a patax, in 
> > LIBIY=LEB-ANIY
> > the B is with a dagesh as expected after a xirik, and the P in UBKAPAY is 
> > with a
> > dagesh as expected after a patax.
> >
> > Isaac Fried, Boston University
> >
> > > [Steve Miller] I was not thinking of examples like Isa 22:4, where it
> > > is the preposition min + 1st person pronoun suffix. I was thinking of
> > > Job 31:7; Ps 44:19 & others, where mini is just a preposition, where a
> > > 1st person pronoun suffix meaning is not possible.
>
> Sincerely,
> -Steve Miller
> Detroit
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> Also incline your ear.
> And forget your own people
> and father’s house so dear.
> So shall the King desire
> your beauty so greatly,
> for He alone is Your Lord.
> Worship Him truthfully. (Ps 45:10-11)