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  • From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 25:21 לנכח on behalf of?
  • Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:38:35 +0100

No, Karl. Neither Ex 14:2 nor Is 57:2 is a verb.

Regards

Pere

2011/12/14 K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>

> Pere:
>
> נכח is used as a verb in Exodus 14:2, Isaiah 57:2, and it looks like in
> Ezekiel 46:9, except none of these is an infinitive. We don’t expect that a
> verb that is used this seldom will be found in all its grammatical forms.
>
>
> The verbal use seems to have the meaning of “to go towards the front, i.e.
> straight forward” with derivatives “in front of” and metaphorically
> referring to people as “upfront, straight” sort of people, i.e. honest,
> true, frank.
>
>
> It is while reading for meaning and realizing that all the other uses of נכח
> and its derivatives refer to going to the front, or as adjectives being in
> front or an upfront person, that the idea that this may be a verb to place
> his wife up front of God makes sense.
>
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Absolutely it could be an infinitive... but I'm afraid that נכח is not
>> used as a verb in the Tanakh.
>> In Gn 30:38 and in Pr 4:25 we find לנכח as well.
>>
>> I think that, as you say, לנכח is here to show the idea of presenting his
>> wife before the Lord in his prayers.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pere Porta
>> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Northeastern Spain)
>>
>> 2011/12/13 K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
>>
>>> Dea B-Hebrew Fellows:
>>>
>>> Every time *נכח* is used, it refers to the action of going towards the
>>>
>>> front, straight forward. The one exception seems to be Genesis 25:21.
>>>
>>
>>
>>> Are we dealing with a homograph? Or is this an infinitive verb with the
>>> idea of presenting his wife before the Lord in his prayers? We can’t
>>> count
>>> on the Masoretic points always to be correct, so we have to be ready to
>>> think outside of the box when there are questions.
>>>
>>> Karl W. Randolph.
>>>
>>


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Pere Porta




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