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  • Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:53:52 -0500

ISAAC FRIED wrote: A Hebrew personal name is not a grammatically structured
word. YOSEP need not be from the root YSP, but is reasonably the compound
YO-SEP with the theophoric component YO = YA, as in YA-AQOB.One may equally
well partition BENYAMIYN as BEN-YA-AMIYN.

I can hardly see a mother in her right mind calling her child Son-of-
my-right-hand (hand made?), or Look-a-son, or He-will-laugh, ect.

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ISHINAN: Actually, any mother would augur good to name her son "Bin Yamiyn"
which means "blessed, prosperous, and or fortunate son --- cf. Arabic:
al-Yumn Barakah ????????: ????????

?????: ??????? ???????? ??????? ??????? ??? ??????: ????? ?????? ???
????????? ???????? ???? ????????: ?????????? ?????? ????????

Hence, from this trilateral root "ymn" we derive at the etymology of the
Yemen also known as Arabia Felix. Another derivation is the right hand which
also happens to be a symbol of prosperity

Ishinan Ishibashi
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JIM wrote: Names of Rachel's Second-Born Son Each of Rachel and Jacob gives
Rachel's second-born son a name. [In English, this son is called Benjamin.]
Rachel dies in childbirth after giving this child the name BN-)WNY. Genesis
35: 16-19 This post will focus primarily [but not exclusively] on Rachel's
name for her second-born son: BN-)WNY. Scholars split as to the intended
meaning of this name. Robert Alter comments at p. 199 of "Genesis":
"Ben-oni. The name can be construed to mean either 'son of my vigor' or, on
somewhat more tenuous philological grounds, 'son of my sorrow'


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ISHINAN: )WNY actually means: my helper, my assistant, my true friend (i.e.
a friend I can depend upon in times of need.) Unfortunately, nothing can be
referred to as sorrow, I am afraid. The name is from the Semitic trilateral
root )WN which means primarily: help or assistance. Incidentally the Bedouins
in the desert call dates or salt; Abw `awn being metonymically thus called
because they help in digesting food. BTW Jim, since you are interested in
Biblical names, the name )WNY is quite current in the Arab world today as
)Awniy. You can Google it yourself by typing: `Awniy.


http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=%60Awniy&pbx=1&oq=%60Awniy&aq=f&aqi=g-s4&aql=1&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=9545l9545l0l11845l1l1l0l0l0l0l214l214l2-1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=fc1f175dc4ba964c&biw=1024&bih=582

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Jim,

It occurred to me that when you have a name like Benjamin, usually what it
means is "son of" Yamiyn. So, technically, that is not his proper name.
Yamiyn would be the name of his father, or the name of the tribe. His
mother, or anyone, would preface his "given name" with the word "Bin + and
the name of his father or tribe. So, Benjamin actually must have another
name, his own name given by his parents.

Another example of naming patterns, is Williamson, which originally meant
William's son. Or Robertson, meaning Robert's son. So Bin Yamiyn means
Yamiyn's son, or the Son of Yamiyn.


Ishinan Ishibashi
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Yes Ishinan, but in Hebrew Ben like B(L also means "of the character / nature
of a thing.(also: one deserving of)"

So BinYamin means "of a reliable / ever-present nature"

A good name.

David Kolinsky
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--- On Sun, 9/25/11, Ishinan <ishinan AT comcast.net> wrote:

From: Ishinan <ishinan AT comcast.net>
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Jim,

It occurred to me that when you have a name like Benjamin, usually what it
means is "son of" Yamiyn.  So, technically, that is not his proper name. 
Yamiyn would be the name of his father, or the name of the tribe.  His
mother, or anyone, would preface his "given name" with the word "Bin + and
the name of his father or tribe.  So, Benjamin actually must have another
name, his own name given by his parents. 

Another example of naming patterns, is Williamson, which originally meant
William's son.  Or Robertson, meaning Robert's son.  So Bin Yamiyn means
Yamiyn's son, or the Son of Yamiyn.


Ishinan Ishibashi
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