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["Ishinan" <ishinan AT comcast.net>]

ISAAC FRIED wrote: A Hebrew personal name is not a grammatically structured 
word. YOSEP  need not be from the root YSP, but is reasonably the compound 
YO-SEP with the theophoric component YO = YA, as in YA-AQOB.One may equally 
well partition BENYAMIYN as BEN-YA-AMIYN.

I can hardly see a mother in her right mind calling her child Son-of- 
my-right-hand (hand made?), or Look-a-son, or He-will-laugh, ect.

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ISHINAN: Actually, any mother would augur good to name her son "Bin Yamiyn" 
which means "blessed, prosperous, and or fortunate son  --- cf. Arabic: 
al-Yumn Barakah ????????: ????????

?????: ??????? ???????? ??????? ??????? ??? ??????: ????? ?????? ??? 
????????? ???????? ???? ????????: ?????????? ?????? ????????

Hence, from this trilateral  root "ymn" we derive at the etymology of the 
Yemen also known as Arabia Felix. Another derivation is the right hand which 
also happens to be a symbol of  prosperity

Ishinan Ishibashi
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JIM wrote: Names of Rachel's Second-Born Son Each of Rachel and Jacob gives 
Rachel's second-born son a name.  [In English, this son is called Benjamin.]  
Rachel dies in childbirth after giving this child the name BN-)WNY.  Genesis 
35: 16-19 This post will focus primarily [but not exclusively] on Rachel's 
name for her second-born son:  BN-)WNY.  Scholars split as to the intended 
meaning of this name.  Robert Alter comments at p. 199 of "Genesis":  
"Ben-oni.  The name can be construed to mean either 'son of my vigor' or, on 
somewhat more tenuous philological grounds, 'son of my sorrow'


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ISHINAN:  )WNY actually means: my helper, my assistant, my true friend (i.e. 
a friend I can depend upon in times of need.) Unfortunately, nothing can be 
referred to as sorrow, I am afraid.  The name is from the Semitic trilateral 
root )WN which means primarily: help or assistance. Incidentally the Bedouins 
in the desert call dates or salt; Abw `awn being metonymically thus called 
because they help in digesting food. BTW Jim, since you are interested in 
Biblical names, the name )WNY is quite current in the Arab world today as 
)Awniy. You can Google it yourself by typing: `Awniy.


http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=%60Awniy&pbx=1&oq=%60Awniy&aq=f&aqi=g-s4&aql=1&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=9545l9545l0l11845l1l1l0l0l0l0l214l214l2-1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=fc1f175dc4ba964c&biw=1024&bih=582

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Jim,

It occurred to me that when you have a name like Benjamin, usually what it 
means is "son of" Yamiyn.  So, technically, that is not his proper name.  
Yamiyn would be the name of his father, or the name of the tribe.  His 
mother, or anyone, would preface his "given name" with the word "Bin + and 
the name of his father or tribe.  So, Benjamin actually must have another 
name, his own name given by his parents.  

Another example of naming patterns, is Williamson, which originally meant 
William's son.  Or Robertson, meaning Robert's son.  So Bin Yamiyn means 
Yamiyn's son, or the Son of Yamiyn.


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Yes Ishinan, but in Hebrew Ben like B(L also means "of the character / nature 
of a thing.(also: one deserving of)"

So BinYamin means "of a reliable / ever-present nature"

A good name.

David Kolinsky
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From: Ishinan <ishinan AT comcast.net>
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Jim,

It occurred to me that when you have a name like Benjamin, usually what it 
means is "son of" Yamiyn.  So, technically, that is not his proper name.  
Yamiyn would be the name of his father, or the name of the tribe.  His 
mother, or anyone, would preface his "given name" with the word "Bin + and 
the name of his father or tribe.  So, Benjamin actually must have another 
name, his own name given by his parents.  

Another example of naming patterns, is Williamson, which originally meant 
William's son.  Or Robertson, meaning Robert's son.  So Bin Yamiyn means 
Yamiyn's son, or the Son of Yamiyn.


Ishinan Ishibashi
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