Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>]

George,

I wrote about nouns having SERE (not segol) in their first syllable and at a
time having segol in their second syllable. And so, )BL, mourning (2Sa 14:2;
Gn 50:10).
So, you misunderstood me.
After a deeper study I found that this noun kind is limited, within the
whole Hebrew language, to about 60 nouns (and also preposition )CL (Lv
1:16).

I can send to the b-hebrew list the entire list if people are interested in
it.

Friendly,

Pere Porta

2011/5/1 George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>

> Pere,
>
> Nouns with the pattern seghol-seghol are segholates. They seem to have
> derived from an original one-syllable form in which there was a consonant
> cluster at the end. For example, מֶלֶךְ was originally 'malk'. Most
> two-syllable nouns with an early accent are of this type, such as , קֹ֫דֶשׁ
> ,סֵ֫פֶר, נַ֫עַר, etc.
>
> Noun of the form tsere-tsere are not segholates. In other words, they were
> not derived from an original one-syllable form with a consonant cluster.
>
>
> GEORGE ATHAS
> Moore Theological College (Sydney, Australia)
> www.moore.edu.au
>
>
> From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com<mailto:pporta7 AT gmail.com>>
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:05:21 +0200
> To: Randall Buth <randallbuth AT gmail.com<mailto:randallbuth AT gmail.com>>
> Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org<mailto:b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >>
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Tevel vs Evel
>
> Dear b-hebrew listees,
>
> I'm doing a comparison between several noun types in order to make some
> systematization of their patterns.
>
> I find nouns consisting of three root letters with tsere in the first and
> tsere in the second.
>
> And so, TBL, world (Ps 19:5) or TB+, Tebeth (a month of the year) (Est
> 2:16)
>
> And I find nouns consisting of three root letters with tsere in the first
> but with segol in the second:
>
> )BL, mourning (2Sa 14:2)
> SFR, book (2Sa 1:18)
> $B+, tribe (Gn 49:10)
>
> Can anyone provide a good reason of this different pattern?
> I mean: not *"the Hebrew language is like this*", but, so to say, an
> "internal" reason.
> --Have nouns tsere-tsere a feature common to all them?
> --Have nouns tsere-segol a feature common to all them, a common
> denominator?
> --Could we, given this and this and this root consonants, know in advance
> which pattern (tsere-tsere or tsere-segol) the resulting noun would fit if
> both vowel sounds are to be 'e'?
>
> Friendly,
>
> Pere Porta
> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
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