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- From: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
- To: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] guess work
- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:27:49 -0600
can you imagine attempting to read or explain the book of isaiah or
deuteronomy to a group of adults who attended not college, not high school,
not grammar school; who have never read from a written book?
In 2010 a.d., that exercise would result in ... failure.
I don't see how human nature or ability has changed in 3,000 years? ...
Humans still have eyes, ears and mouths. Has their ability to understand
elevated written language, a language different from conversational language
... changed? Could humans then understand the written language read to them,
when they could not read or write it?
I don't think so; not approaching the same level of the literate levitical
priests, scribes, etc., who presumably wrote the masoretic text at a level
of language consistent with their highly trained abilities.
regards,
fred burlingame
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:51 PM, K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Fred:
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, fred burlingame
> <tensorpath AT gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I am saying that language comprehension does not come in a fixed container
>> or packet, but rather exists on a continuum. Some people have first grade
>> language skill; some people have high school language skill; and some
>> people
>> enjoy graduate school language skill.
>>
>
> You must have a very low opinion as to the intelligence employed by the
> average ancient Israelite in his language comprehension. Almost all the
> vocabulary and concepts mentioned in Deuteronomy were from daily use, no
> more difficult than expected from high school students. Compared to some of
> the other books in Tanakh, Deuteronomy is rather simple and straight
> forward, making your paragraph above appropriate ..... not.
>
> We moderns, on the other hand, have two additional difficulties: 1) we no
> longer inhabit their world, so reading Deuteronomy brings us in contact with
> concepts with which we are unfamiliar, and 2) some of the terminology has
> been forgotten, so we moderns are guessing as to their meaning and
> understanding. These are modern difficulties, not in any way to be applied
> to a study of Biblical Hebrew in its understanding by its original audience.
>
>>
>> …
>> And I am saying, as I said before, that most consumers of the Code, then
>> and
>> now, enjoy not the level of language skill that david possesses;
>
>
> How do you know? Where is your data? This sounds like a presupposition, not
> a conclusion based on knowledge and research.
>
>
>> or that is
>> possessed by the Code.
>
>
> See above. Apparently you have not read the whole of Tanakh?
>
>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> fred burlingame
>>
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] guess work
, (continued)
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Re: [b-hebrew] guess work,
dwashbur, 01/05/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] guess work,
Paul Zellmer, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, fred burlingame, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, Paul Zellmer, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, fred burlingame, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, Paul Zellmer, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, dwashbur, 01/06/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work/who the Bible was written for etc. - THREAD CLOSED, Yigal Levin, 01/06/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, K Randolph, 01/06/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] guess work,
Paul Zellmer, 01/05/2011
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Re: [b-hebrew] guess work,
dwashbur, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, K Randolph, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, fred burlingame, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, Paul Zellmer, 01/05/2011
- Re: [b-hebrew] guess work, dwashbur, 01/05/2011
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