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  • From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • To: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • Cc: Hebrew List <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Vav Nun Suffix
  • Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:25:39 +0100

So, Isaac, in "shemesh" שֶׁמֶשׁ (sun).... where do we have the personal
pronoun?

Let me put a rather personal question, please: is yours a "mathematical"
mind?

What is your purpose at so often insisting on this structure of the Hebrew
language? What is your aim, your goal?

Let us suppose you're right in your viewing of the Hebrew structure: then,
Isaac, ..... in which respect, in which sense does this viewing of
yours help us in our deeping of the Hebrew text of the Bible so that we are
able to better understand it?

I think a clear answer is important for this list.

Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)

2010/11/17 Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>

> As I see it the essence of Hebrew grammar is expressed in this one single
> sentence:
>
> A Hebrew word (sans prepositions) consists of a root + personal pronouns.
>
> Inside the root, the (universal) personal pronouns (or identity markers)
> are the sounds I and U (also E and O) for ( היא ) and for ( הוא ),
> irrespective of gender and number. For instance, XALUL = XAL-(הוא)-L, is
> 'he or it having the property of the root XLL', whereas XALIYL = AXL-(היא)-L
> is 'it which has the property of the root XLL. The pronouns הוא, היא are
> used alternatively for versatility.
>
> A consonant pronoun can not be inserted between the radical letters so as
> not to spoil the root, but it may be attached fore or aft. The attached
> consonantal personal pronouns need not be conforming to the separate ones.
> For instance: TALMIYD = ATAH-LM-IY-D, 'student', NIYDBAK = NIY-DBAK 'a row
> of stones in a wall' (essentially a NIYDBAQ or a NIYDPAQ, 'a glued row of
> stones').
>
> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Arnaud Fournet wrote:
>
>
>> From: "Isaac Fried" <if AT math.bu.edu>
>>
>>
>> The endings AN, ON, UN, are, in my humble opinion, ( לעניות דעתי )
>>> personal pronouns, as in ANIY ( אני, אנו ), referring to the thing
>>> described. To wit: XAL-ON, 'a thing that is XALUL, or KALUL in a wall',
>>> AD-ON, 'he who is AD, or AZ', AT-ON, 'she who is AT or AD or AZ' like the
>>> goddess Athena. In spoken Hebrew we have PARDES- AN, 'he who tends
>>> orchards'.
>>> Isaac Fried
>>>
>> ***
>>
>> How do you explain: Xalul + aniY => Xal-on ?
>>
>> Arnaud Fournet
>>
>
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Pere Porta




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