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  • From: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
  • To: Randall Buth <randallbuth AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] vocalization geography
  • Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:36:38 -0600

Hello Randall:

I appreciate your taking the time to respond.

I linked to the chart because of the chart, not because of the comments
following it.

regards,

fred burlingame

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Randall Buth <randallbuth AT gmail.com> wrote:

> >> by this chart
> >>
> >> http://www.pbcc.org/dc/hebrew/HebVerbCharts.pdf
> >>
> >> among others.
> >
> >But I see "way-yaq-ṭēl" there...
> >
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> fred burlingame
>
>
> In addition to Petr's comment,
> you need to get a different Hebrew
> starting point. The PDF you mentioned had silly stuff in it
>
> like shibber for shibbar (note the correct MT vocalization for this verb !
> ),
> and as if meaning
> 'put something in a state of having been broken',
> as if that differed from the qal 'break something'.
>
> like "hishbir" = 'God caused Moses to break the tablets'.
> hishbir means 'trade grain', and 'to bring to crisis 'breaking point',
> apparently not 'to cause someone else to break something'
>
> and the idea of an 'internal reflexive hif`il' as a second hif`il binyan
> looks like somebody's bad dream.
> a hif`il is a hif`il, end of story,
> [there actually was a -t- infix (like the 'hit in pi``el column) causative
> in Hebrew and other languages, but that was hishtaHava in Hebrew
> or istaf`al in Arabic. Later Aramaic (re)established an e-tta-f`al]
>
> hope that helps, maybe check out our website for self-study followup.
>
> blessings
> Randall Buth
>
>
>
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