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  • From: Petr Tomasek <tomasek AT etf.cuni.cz>
  • To: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] vocalization geography
  • Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:47:54 +0100

On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:45:37PM -0600, fred burlingame wrote:
> i see "nak-til" on the chart, for the conjugation: hiphil form, imperfect
> tense, first person, plural.
>
> regards,
>
> fred burlingame

That's "Imperfect". See "wayiqṭol" below.


> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Petr Tomasek <tomasek AT etf.cuni.cz> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:04:52PM -0600, fred burlingame wrote:
> > > by this chart
> > >
> > > http://www.pbcc.org/dc/hebrew/HebVerbCharts.pdf
> > >
> > > among others.
> >
> > But I see "way-yaq-ṭēl" there...
> >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > fred burlingame
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Petr Tomasek <tomasek AT etf.cuni.cz>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:12:53PM -0600, fred burlingame wrote:
> > > > > Hello all;
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does location drive pronunciation? For the verb קרב , the answer
> > appears,
> > > > > sometimes, yes ... and sometimes, no.
> > > > >
> > > > > Numbers 31:48
> > > > >
> > > > > ויקרבו אל משה הפקדים אשר לאלפי הצבא שרי האלפים ושרי המאות
> > > > >
> > > > > Numbers 31:50
> > > > >
> > > > > ונקרב את קרבן יהוה איש אשר מצא כלי זהב אצעדה וצמיד טבעת עגיל וכומז
> > לכפר
> > > > על
> > > > > נפשתינו לפני יהוה
> > > > >
> > > > > The first appearance of the verb (numbers 31:48) manifests in qal
> > form,
> > > > > imperfect tense, third person, plural. The pronunciation markings
> > reflect
> > > > > the normal manner for this conjugation: "va-yik-re-vu."
> > > > >
> > > > > The second appearance of the verb (numbers 31:50) in the same
> > relative
> > > > > location, manifests in hiphil form, imperfect tense, first person,
> > > > plural.
> > > > > The normal pronunciation here would appear to be: "va-nak-riv." The
> > > > nikkud
> > > > > however, here instruct a pronunciation of "va-nak-rev."
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean by "normal" pronunciation? The imperfect consecutive
> > > > ("narrative") is "normally" based on apocopate forms...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Petr Tomasek <http://www.etf.cuni.cz/~tomasek>
> > > > Jabber: butrus AT jabbim.cz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Petr Tomasek <http://www.etf.cuni.cz/~tomasek>
> > Jabber: butrus AT jabbim.cz
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > EA 355:001 DU DU DU DU
> > EA 355:002 TU TU TU TU
> > EA 355:003 NU NU NU NU NU NU NU
> > EA 355:004 NA NA NA NA NA
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
>

--
Petr Tomasek <http://www.etf.cuni.cz/~tomasek>
Jabber: butrus AT jabbim.cz

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
EA 355:001 DU DU DU DU
EA 355:002 TU TU TU TU
EA 355:003 NU NU NU NU NU NU NU
EA 355:004 NA NA NA NA NA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~






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