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- From: "Doug Belot" <dbelot AT bigpond.net.au>
- To: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah
- Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 07:08:48 +1000
This is an interesting admission , if this is so , that the NT was originally in Greek , and we know that the tetragrammaton was considered by Jesus and Luke and Paul to be best written as Kupiou , why do you think later scholars prempted those obviously better scholars than any of us by ignoring the teaching of Jesus and Paul and bringing in confusion such as YHWH , if Jesus was writing Kupioz , and Paul was writing Kupioz , why dont we all follow their pattern.
Do we think we know more than they.
doug belot
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah
Dear Fred,
In short, yes. The vast majority of scholars believe that most, if not all,
of the NT was originally written in Greek, within a Greek-speaking Jewish
and non-Jewish milieu. But even if parts were written in either Hebrew or
Aramaic, the original texts have been lost. Since the best we have in hand
is translations from the Greek into Hebrew or Aramaic, all we would be able
to discuss is why the translators used this word or another.
Yigal Levin
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of fred burlingame
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:47 PM
To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah
Isaiah 61:1 appears in classical hebrew format.
A. An introductory clause: "spirit of Lord of me on me because:"
B. followed by a couplet in parallel: (i) "He annoints me to bear tidings to
afflicted ones; and (ii) He sends me to bind up ones being broken of heart;"
C. followed by a couplet in parallel: (i) "to proclaim to ones being
captive, liberty; and (ii) to ones being bound, opening."
The subsequent, septuagint, greek, translation, in its wisdom, alters the
original hebrew and changes clause "C(ii)" to: "to the blind, recovery of
sight."
The subsequent, greek, translation of the original hebrew new testament in
luke 4:18 then proceeds to further change the hebrew by: (1.) retaining the
septuagint old testament, new clause "C(ii);" (2.) deleting clause "B(ii);"
and adding another new clause "C(iii):" "to send to ones being oppressed a
release."
With the symmetry, balance and substance lost in and by the hellenization of
the hebrew new testament, a question arises. Why is the hebrew new testament
discussed not here? Does the opinion continue to hold sway that the new
testament orginally authored in greek?
regards,
fred burlingame
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[b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
fred burlingame, 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Yigal Levin, 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Doug Belot, 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Bryant J. Williams III, 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Yigal Levin, 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Doug Belot, 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Yigal Levin, 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
fred burlingame, 10/16/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah, Barry H., 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Yigal Levin, 10/16/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Isaac Fried, 10/16/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah, Jack Kilmon, 10/17/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of isaiah,
Isaac Fried, 10/16/2010
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