Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Doug Belot" <dbelot AT bigpond.net.au>]

I wonder in Lamentations do you consider the allegorical language, or role 
play character names for Israel , such as daughter of Zion , which is used 
so often by Jeremiah , do you consider the role play language of Hosea with 
the "husband and wife" as God and Israel , sons of God , the mother etc , 
then Ezek 16, and 23 which is all about rle playing Israel as a woman , 
indeed are you aware of this "hidden role play" story of Gods relationship 
with Israel.



doug belot


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
To: "Pere Porta" <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
Cc: "B-Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The most difficult


> Pere:
>
> The first step in translating is understanding the text.
>
> Most difficult book to read? Off the top of my head, it probably is
> Lamentations. Except for a couple of verses, Proverbs is pretty easy. Job 
> is
> sort of middling difficult, but if one starts at the beginning of 
> chapters,
> most of the book follows the flow. Like you said, the history books are
> easy, except for the first ten chapters of Chronicles—that long list of
> names gets deadly. Ezekiel’s main difficulty lies not so much in the
> language he uses, but in the concepts he struggles to describe. Some 
> Psalms
> are difficult, some easy, but for the most part are easy to middling
> difficulty.
>
> All in all, I would say that that you are right that poetry is more
> difficult to read than prose, and that the simplest prose is found in the
> history books.
>
> Like I said before, I haven’t made a list of verses that I think are
> difficult to read, so I can’t give a list of individual verses.
>
> Of course I am reading without points, I may sing a different tune if I 
> had
> to justify some of the points that I presently conclude are wrong.
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you, Karl.
> > I think of a general difficulty.
> > And so to my sense it is more easy to translate the book of Ruth than to
> > translate some Psalms.
> > Maybe we could say that narrative texts are more easily translated than, 
> > so
> > to say, philosophic texts.
> > Gn 37, which tells us Joseph's selling (by his brothers) to men who went 
> > to
> > Egypt .... is more easy to translate than some fragments of Qohelet...
> >
> > Some chapters of Exodus are more easily translated than, say, several
> > verses in the Proverbs... which are rather of philosophic nature...
> >
> > And so on.
> >
> > Then, maybe some chapters in Ezekiel would be between the most difficult 
> > to
> > translate?  Or perhaps some pieces of Lamentations?
> >
> > Pere Porta
> > (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
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