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  • From: JimStinehart AT aol.com
  • To: J.Read-2 AT sms.ed.ac.uk
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 41: 1: "Two Years of Days"
  • Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:02:23 EDT


James Christian:

The farther one goes back in history, the earlier the age at which a boy
became a man. For the tent-dwelling Hebrews in ancient Canaan, a male Hebrew
age 13 regular years was definitely a man, not a boy.

Now let’s consider the stated ages of Joseph and Ishmael at death. Joseph
is stated twice to be age 110 “years” at death. Genesis 50: 22, 26
Moreover, all 10 of Joseph’s older half-brothers lived to an age over 110
“years”
. In the ancient world, that would have been impossible, and indeed would
be virtually impossible today as well, if the “years” in question are the
12-month years that applied in Egypt and Mesopotamia (places that, unlike
Canaan, had only one main harvest, and one New Year, every 12 months).

Some scholars say that these “prodigious” ages are intended to make the
legendary Patriarchs look regal, like legendary Babylonian kings. But it
doesn
’t make beloved Joseph look regal if at Genesis 37: 2 the narrator calls
Joseph a N(R/“boy” at age 17 years, if these are 12-month years. And what
about Ishmael?

Ishmael is stated to die at age 137 “years”. Genesis 25: 17 If those are
12-month years (Mesopotamian or Egyptian years), that is impossible. Why
would one think that the Hebrew author of the Patriarchal narratives wants to
make exiled Ishmael look regal, like a mythical Babylonian king?

Note that the view that a person’s age in “years” means 12-month years in
the Patriarchal narratives makes no sense on any level. Joseph and Ishmael
are too old to be called N(R in chapters 37 and 21 of Genesis, and Joseph
and Ishmael die at ages that are way too old in the ancient world, if a “year”
of a person’s stated age means a 12-month year.

But consider now if Ishmael is being stated to have witnessed 137 New Years
in Canaan at the time of his death, counting both Canaan’s spring New Years
and Canaan’s fall New Years, combined. Then Ishmael dies at the reasonable
age of 68½ regular years. Likewise, on that view of the case, Joseph dies
at the reasonable age of 55 regular years.

The fact that a male was an adult in the ancient world at age 13 years does
not mean that a 13-year-old male should view that as the ideal time to
marry and start earning his own livelihood. The above website notes that the
Talmud sees older ages as being the ideal ages for marrying, and for earning a
livelihood. But the Talmud recognizes that age 13 is the proper age for
fulfillment of the Commandments. That’s because a male entered into adulthood
at age 13 in the ancient world, and was no longer a “boy”, no longer being
a child.

So if people’s ages as set forth in the text reflect both fall New Years
and spring New Years, combined, as is fitting for a composition that deals
primarily with Canaan, then a-l-l ages in the Patriarchal narratives make
perfect and total sense, on all levels.

Virtually no stated age in the last 40 chapters of Genesis (beginning at
Genesis 11: 26) makes sense if people’s ages are being set forth the
Mesopotamian way, when one counted a person’s age by how many spring New
Years the
person had witnessed. But 100% of such stated ages make perfect sense, on all
levels, if people’s ages are being set forth in the text in the Canaan way:
in terms of how many fall New Years and spring New Years, combined, the
person had witnessed.

Check it out for yourself. Every single stated age in the Patriarchal
narratives makes perfect sense on that theory of the case. The Patriarchal
narratives are not akin to Babylonian yarns about mythically long-lived
legendary Babylonian kings. No way!

Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois

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