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- From: James Read <J.Read-2 AT sms.ed.ac.uk>
- To: Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$
- Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:08:26 +0100
Hi Rolf,
I can see what you are saying in principle. But I think that 'soul' is perhaps the poorest choice of word possible if the aim is to guide a reader to understanding of NP$ via consistent translation. The majority of texts seem to place the semantic domain of NP$ as synonym of life but with occasional more abstract shades (and occasional more concrete shades). A good choice of word, in English, doesn't spring to mind but whatever it is it should be a close synonym of 'life'. English 'soul' doesn't really qualify as it carries with it all kinds of semantic baggage that 'life' doesn't.
In fact, the more I think about it I don't really think it is possible to choose 1 word in English which is a synonym of life and which works in all contexts of NP$. But, I agree, that we could definitely do better than using 30 different words of completely different meaning.
James Christian
Second, I would like to have a translation like Youngs literal
translation and the New World Translation that are very literal
(together with Wuest's Expanded translation). A strictly literal
translation is in a way a semi-translation. For example, when the NWT
consistently uses the one English word "soul" as a translation of
NP$, the readers must on the basis of the context find the references
of "soul". Therefore, the readers have a part in the very process of
translation.The advantage of a literal translation is that the
readers may come as close as possible to the original text through
their mother tongue. But this can of course be a real challenge. One
other advantage of such a translation, is that the readers can see
where other modern translations for different reasons have broken
fundamental translation rules and in effect has lead their readers
astray.
Third, I would like to have an idiomatic translation that is as
literal as possible, but not is a semi-translation. This means that
more than one word is used for NP$, but much fewer than the 30 or
more words that are used in modern translations, Footnotes with
alternative readings and alternative translation possibilities would
also be appreciated. When a person who does not know the original
languages works to get an understanding of Biblical passages, he or
she will learn a lot by comparing different translations. It is
impossible to transfer the whole original meaning of the verbs and
clauses from the source language to the target language-a part, great
or small, is lost in the process, and a part, great or small, is
added. Different translations may stress different sides of the
original meaning, and therefore it is an advantage to use several
translations.
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[b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said'
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[b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said',
Randall Buth, 07/09/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said', Rolf Furuli, 07/09/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said',
Rolf Furuli, 07/11/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said',
Bryant J. Williams III, 07/11/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said', Rolf Furuli, 07/12/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said',
Bryant J. Williams III, 07/11/2009
- [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said', Randall Buth, 07/11/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said',
Rolf Furuli, 07/12/2009
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[b-hebrew] Translation theory and hebrew verb forms,
James Read, 07/12/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and hebrew verb forms,
Rolf Furuli, 07/13/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and hebrew verb forms, James Read, 07/13/2009
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[b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$,
James Read, 07/13/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$, James Read, 07/13/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$,
Rolf Furuli, 07/13/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$, James Read, 07/13/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$,
Bryant J. Williams III, 07/14/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$, Rolf Furuli, 07/14/2009
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$, K Randolph, 07/14/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$, James Read, 07/14/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$, K Randolph, 07/15/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and NP$, James Read, 07/15/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translation theory and hebrew verb forms,
Rolf Furuli, 07/13/2009
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[b-hebrew] Translation theory and hebrew verb forms,
James Read, 07/12/2009
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[b-hebrew] questions, reliable evidence, 'stand' and 'said',
Randall Buth, 07/09/2009
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